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by mayugastank
September 26th, 2011, 10:46 pm
Forum: Race and Ethnicity, Racial Relations & Racism
Topic: Surenos love old Black soul music why?
Replies: 154
Views: 41225

Re: Surenos love old Black soul music why?

Look at the worlds tattoos from 10 years ago and then look at chicano tattoos from 10 years ago. YOULL SEE CLEARLY..........how much chicanos have changed the artform of tattooing WORLDWIDE. The only styles known in the world are JAPANESE-SAILOR JERRY-CHICANO-TRIBAL. The modern American tattooing is...
by mayugastank
September 15th, 2011, 11:09 pm
Forum: Race and Ethnicity, Racial Relations & Racism
Topic: Surenos love old Black soul music why?
Replies: 154
Views: 41225

Re: Surenos love old Black soul music why?

TRE wrote" ESSe bangers art is not plastered all over black peoples bodies Mayuga! Stop exaggerating!! Just because a few high-profile rap artist use Cartoon to help sell and market cd's to their largest demographic and biggest fans (Latino women), doesn't translate to ALL black people wearing Chica...
by mayugastank
September 15th, 2011, 11:01 pm
Forum: Race and Ethnicity, Racial Relations & Racism
Topic: Do Blacks dispute that Mexicans originated LA gang culture??
Replies: 1200
Views: 198072

Re: Do Blacks dispute that Mexicans originated LA gang cultu

Whats that? MMBRKDOG.................... I never said LA EME was older then NF. NEVER. In fact Nuestra Familia is probably 10 years older then LA EME. Its been documented. Nortenos might just very well be older or as old as most Sureno gangs in Los Angelos. But Nuestra Familia is at the very minium ...
by mayugastank
September 6th, 2011, 11:26 pm
Forum: Race and Ethnicity, Racial Relations & Racism
Topic: Surenos love old Black soul music why?
Replies: 154
Views: 41225

Re: Surenos love old Black soul music why?

REAL FREAKING SIMILAR .....................REAL FREAKING SIMILAR...................Something smells fishy round here........bloods/crips and norteno/sureno............hmm..................real freaking SUSPECT.................question which one of the 2 is older? which one wore the colors first>?
by mayugastank
September 6th, 2011, 11:20 pm
Forum: Race and Ethnicity, Racial Relations & Racism
Topic: Surenos love old Black soul music why?
Replies: 154
Views: 41225

Re: Surenos love old Black soul music why?

Its actually quite weird to deny that the ENTIRE WESTCOAST getdown is nothing but a rip off of Chicano styles from Texas. I mean if we would go so far as to even label chicanos from Los Angelos 2nd string. The whole pachuco-old school varrio -dickies-pendletons and inkwork didnt originate here it or...
by mayugastank
September 4th, 2011, 11:14 pm
Forum: Race and Ethnicity, Racial Relations & Racism
Topic: Surenos love old Black soul music why?
Replies: 154
Views: 41225

Re: Surenos love old Black soul music why?

I doubt the founders of the Crips, Pirus, Brims etc. knew anything about Surenos and Nortenos. These were young guys that had never been to adult prison. Many lived in areas that were 90%+ black. How much would they know about NF and la eMe? So in your estimation it was coicidence that Snoop/Dre/Ic...
by mayugastank
September 4th, 2011, 12:36 am
Forum: Race and Ethnicity, Racial Relations & Racism
Topic: Surenos love old Black soul music why?
Replies: 154
Views: 41225

Re: Surenos love old Black soul music why?

... Chicanos do have the oldest modern hoods in the country but the cholo nowadays gets his start get down starting with the pachuco who was influenced by blacks. No one can say the ragtag groups with hardly any style are this true varrio gangsters mayuga is trying to portray. blue and red did not ...
by mayugastank
September 4th, 2011, 12:26 am
Forum: Race and Ethnicity, Racial Relations & Racism
Topic: Surenos love old Black soul music why?
Replies: 154
Views: 41225

Re: Surenos love old Black soul music why?

Blue and red are common colors for gangs, Mayuga. I don't think Crips and Bloods ripped off Surenos and Nortenos. If Sur wore purple and Norte wore yellow and Bloods and Crips did the same, that would be suspicious! But red and blue are basic colors. Remember, originally gang colors were repped pri...
by mayugastank
September 4th, 2011, 12:19 am
Forum: Race and Ethnicity, Racial Relations & Racism
Topic: Surenos love old Black soul music why?
Replies: 154
Views: 41225

Re: Surenos love old Black soul music why?

You make it seem like the Bloods and Crips were the first Black gangs. That shows how limited your knowledge. I read that book you speak of and I have to go back to it because what you quote sounds out of context and even if he does say that doesn't mean its correct and body can say anything but do...
by mayugastank
September 4th, 2011, 12:07 am
Forum: Race and Ethnicity, Racial Relations & Racism
Topic: Surenos love old Black soul music why?
Replies: 154
Views: 41225

Re: Surenos love old Black soul music why?

policyking" You make it seem like the bloods and crips were the first black gangs"........ Who did that? Heres what bloods and crips are......(1)one of the 4 largest black gangs in America. (2) Extremely different then any black gangs prior( 3) Totally different then any black gang across America. Y...
by mayugastank
September 1st, 2011, 12:33 pm
Forum: Race and Ethnicity, Racial Relations & Racism
Topic: Surenos love old Black soul music why?
Replies: 154
Views: 41225

Re: Surenos love old Black soul music why?

... Chicanos do have the oldest modern hoods in the country but the cholo nowadays gets his start get down starting with the pachuco who was influenced by blacks. No one can say the ragtag groups with hardly any style are this true varrio gangsters mayuga is trying to portray. blue and red did not ...
by mayugastank
September 1st, 2011, 12:18 pm
Forum: Race and Ethnicity, Racial Relations & Racism
Topic: Surenos love old Black soul music why?
Replies: 154
Views: 41225

Re: Surenos love old Black soul music why?

Tre- I like the way you debate. But I see flaws in your arguments. How and why did African Americans from Los Angelos differ from black America? How and why do chicanos from chicago-call themselves kings/disciples/lords? The chicanos from chicago copied the styles of New Yorks transplanted Puerto Ri...
by mayugastank
August 31st, 2011, 6:52 pm
Forum: Race and Ethnicity, Racial Relations & Racism
Topic: Surenos love old Black soul music why?
Replies: 154
Views: 41225

Re: Surenos love old Black soul music why?

fenum The 1980s-1990s cant be denied as the most murderous decades of gang warfare across the United States. Most of it happened in Los Angelos and for their numbers ( 500,000 African Americans ) compared to 7 million latinos in and around Los Angelos counties.....the amount of gang warfare and murd...
by mayugastank
August 31st, 2011, 1:38 pm
Forum: Race and Ethnicity, Racial Relations & Racism
Topic: Surenos love old Black soul music why?
Replies: 154
Views: 41225

Re: Surenos love old Black soul music why?

But I still think Crips/Bloods have had the most impact on modern gang stlye. Your probably right but the fact is they are getting credit for something that was started So.Cal Chicanos. Hes absolutely RIGHT. But so are you. I guess the argument can be made "blacks banged harder-got more reputation-...
by mayugastank
August 31st, 2011, 1:21 pm
Forum: Race and Ethnicity, Racial Relations & Racism
Topic: Surenos love old Black soul music why?
Replies: 154
Views: 41225

Re: Surenos love old Black soul music why?

TRE~ Okay. Yes C/Bs went at it hard and brought banging to a far more heinous-murderous and savage light. But gangbanging had been going on since the 1920s in latino hoods and although even today -the murder count by latino gangs versus black gangs is way slanted with blacks doing a vast majority of...
by mayugastank
August 29th, 2011, 9:35 pm
Forum: Race and Ethnicity, Racial Relations & Racism
Topic: Surenos love old Black soul music why?
Replies: 154
Views: 41225

Re: Surenos love old Black soul music why?

LA BLACK???????????/ how so? what is really uniqe about LA black gangs? I mean they changed up the cholo style a little and came up with flannels that werent buttoned at the top, dickies that sagged instead of being pulled up and chucks instead of stacy adams? What else? When I see red/blue I see C...
by mayugastank
August 29th, 2011, 9:26 pm
Forum: Race and Ethnicity, Racial Relations & Racism
Topic: Surenos love old Black soul music why?
Replies: 154
Views: 41225

Re: Surenos love old Black soul music why?

i dont know why yall even arguing about the first gang in america. they are neither black or Chicano . the first gang in america IS OBVIOUSLY WHITE. Western Gangs,Nigger killing Gangs,Outlaw Gangs. them folks been around since 1650 or something. and how does it even matter whose race had the first ...
by mayugastank
August 28th, 2011, 4:07 pm
Forum: Race and Ethnicity, Racial Relations & Racism
Topic: Surenos love old Black soul music why?
Replies: 154
Views: 41225

Re: Surenos love old Black soul music why?

... FACT MODERN GANG CULTURE IS DERIVED FROM AMERICAS OLDEST LONGEST LIVING TRADITION. Fact: there's no big univeral street gang culture out there. There's three main gang cultures in the US today: LA black, Cholo/SW Chicano and Chicago. If we're being totally honest, LA black gangs have had the bi...
by mayugastank
August 24th, 2011, 1:40 pm
Forum: Race and Ethnicity, Racial Relations & Racism
Topic: Surenos love old Black soul music why?
Replies: 154
Views: 41225

Re: Surenos love old Black soul music why?

FACT CHICANO VARRIOS ARE IN EXCESS OF 120 YEARS OLD . FACT. THE SAME GANGS OF THE 1890S ARE THE SAME GANGS OF TODAY. NOT THE AREA THEY WERE LOCATED IN NOR THEIR NAMES HAVE CHANGED. FACT. THE OLDEST GANGS WERE IN FACT STARTED BY CHICANO TRANSPLANTS FROM TEXAS WHO BROUGHT THESE GANGS AND STYLES WITH ...
by mayugastank
August 24th, 2011, 1:35 pm
Forum: Race and Ethnicity, Racial Relations & Racism
Topic: Surenos love old Black soul music why?
Replies: 154
Views: 41225

Re: Surenos love old Black soul music why?

At Mayuga: Who the hell said Mexicans need permission to listen to black music? I have never read or heard anything that stupid. You are the one claiming certain people need permission to do certain things such as getting a style of tattoo. The form of tattooing is EXTREMELY personal to the movemen...
by mayugastank
August 23rd, 2011, 2:08 pm
Forum: Race and Ethnicity, Racial Relations & Racism
Topic: Surenos love old Black soul music why?
Replies: 154
Views: 41225

Re: Surenos love old Black soul music why?

Jonathanvic wrote:What I want to know is when did Mexicans become Blacks masters? We don't need permission from Mexicans or anyone else to any damned thing, you jackass.

If you dont need permission from Mexicans to do any dam thing then why do mexicans need permission to listen to black music or rap?
by mayugastank
August 23rd, 2011, 2:08 pm
Forum: Race and Ethnicity, Racial Relations & Racism
Topic: Surenos love old Black soul music why?
Replies: 154
Views: 41225

Re: Surenos love old Black soul music why?

Jonathanvic wrote:What I want to know is when did Mexicans become Blacks masters? We don't need permission from Mexicans or anyone else to any damned thing, you jackass.

If you dont need permission from Mexicans to do any dam thing then why do mexicans need permission to listen to black music or rap?
by mayugastank
August 23rd, 2011, 1:55 pm
Forum: Race and Ethnicity, Racial Relations & Racism
Topic: Surenos love old Black soul music why?
Replies: 154
Views: 41225

Re: Surenos love old Black soul music why?

why do surenos love old black music? SAME REASON BLACK BANGERS-dress/drive/and get inked in the manner of the Sureno. We find whats best about a culture and take what we like EVERYONE DOES IT. ESPECIALLY IN AMERICA. My favorite food? Italian Favorite Music? RNB ( African American ) Favorite Vehicles...
by mayugastank
August 18th, 2011, 10:10 am
Forum: Race and Ethnicity, Racial Relations & Racism
Topic: Surenos love old Black soul music why?
Replies: 154
Views: 41225

Re: Surenos love old Black soul music why?

THE YOUNGEST GANG IN EAST LOS ANGELOS IS OLDER THEN THE OLDEST BLACK GANG COAST TO COAST IN AMERICA. PERIOD. Blacks have no banging history. Its only around chicanos that they started wearing dickies-lowriding-getting inked-flashing-graffing like us-and ragging. YET THEY WANT CREDIT FOR WHAT? saggin...
by mayugastank
August 18th, 2011, 10:03 am
Forum: Race and Ethnicity, Racial Relations & Racism
Topic: Surenos love old Black soul music why?
Replies: 154
Views: 41225

Re: Surenos love old Black soul music why?

That term 'gang' is being used very loosely in this thread femun. How can WF be the oldest gang when they started out as a church social group (unless you view church people as gangs). The cops didn't identify WF as a gang until the 1940's when they started organizing with other church kids to Figh...
by mayugastank
August 18th, 2011, 10:00 am
Forum: Race and Ethnicity, Racial Relations & Racism
Topic: Surenos love old Black soul music why?
Replies: 154
Views: 41225

Re: Surenos love old Black soul music why?

White Fence...........ONE GANG 1. Who gives a dam about white fence? They are just one of a dozen chicano gangs in Los Angelos county that are in excess of 100 years or so old. 1. El Jardin, Maravilla, Soto, Garehty Lomas, Canta Rana, Opal, Temple Street, La Rana, Bassett, Black Diamonds, Chino Sinn...
by mayugastank
August 17th, 2011, 11:24 am
Forum: Canada street gangs & US Organized Crime
Topic: THE COSA NOSTRA TODAY
Replies: 92
Views: 25933

Re: THE COSA NOSTRA TODAY

The Cosa Nostra is a dying breed not just in NY but across the country. Between law enforcement, new ethnic crime organizations and internal wars between families and within families LCN is just a shadow of it's former self. They had their time just like the Jews and the Irish did and they had to g...
by mayugastank
August 17th, 2011, 11:21 am
Forum: Race and Ethnicity, Racial Relations & Racism
Topic: Surenos love old Black soul music why?
Replies: 154
Views: 41225

Re: Surenos love old Black soul music why?

I had you back down on the lie that the latin kings were the first chi gang and all gang structure came from them in the other thread now your in here lying again. That's the worst part about you mayuga, you're a sneaky coward woofing some shit to some fools they back your ass down, you say well I ...
by mayugastank
August 17th, 2011, 11:13 am
Forum: Race and Ethnicity, Racial Relations & Racism
Topic: Surenos love old Black soul music why?
Replies: 154
Views: 41225

Re: Surenos love old Black soul music why?

Chicago gangs arent now nor never have been on the level of chicano gangs from East Los. Oldest gangs worldwide are located in East Los Angelos. There are approximately 500,000 African Americans in Los Angelos county. Outside of Los Angelos....there are not even near close to what crips/b loods are....
by mayugastank
August 14th, 2011, 11:18 am
Forum: Race and Ethnicity, Racial Relations & Racism
Topic: Surenos love old Black soul music why?
Replies: 154
Views: 41225

Re: Surenos love old Black soul music why?

You're mad because of the idiotism I call you of & that message you got from me. Also you never really addressed me much. You're just trying to ignore me, because I basically stopped redressing your ass & told people to ignore you. People might just get the point of not talking to you, because migh...
by mayugastank
August 14th, 2011, 11:12 am
Forum: Race and Ethnicity, Racial Relations & Racism
Topic: Surenos love old Black soul music why?
Replies: 154
Views: 41225

Re: Surenos love old Black soul music why?

You're mad because of the idiotism I call you of & that message you got from me. Also you never really addressed me much. You're just trying to ignore me, because I basically stopped redressing your ass & told people to ignore you. People might just get the point of not talking to you, because migh...
by mayugastank
August 12th, 2011, 9:38 pm
Forum: Race and Ethnicity, Racial Relations & Racism
Topic: Surenos love old Black soul music why?
Replies: 154
Views: 41225

Re: Surenos love old Black soul music why?

Funny how the black zoot suiters & pachucos looked very different to this guy, but yet Eazy-E & every body else looked exactly like cholos to this fool. Just ignore this fool like he's doing me, cuzz there's no point like I said. you get on here and spit idiotism all over the board and I never redr...

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