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Unread postby realrighthomie » January 9th, 2018, 2:10 am

Why rollin 20s neighborhood bloods get down with "rollin"? I think dats only a crip/deuce thing

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Unread postby HEADHUNNAGANGX4 » January 9th, 2018, 4:19 am

realrighthomie wrote:Why rollin 20s neighborhood bloods get down with "rollin"? I think dats only a crip/deuce thing


I heard bloods started the whole rolling concept and rolling 20"s blood was the first rolling gang

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Unread postby Pico2jeff » January 9th, 2018, 7:43 am

The Rollin term started with the 60s 1st. The 30s came 2nd, the 20 bloods came 3rd and Rollin 50 brim came 4th so they was claiming Rollin before the Rollin/NHC alliance was even thought of. Also they are more known and active than most Rollin sets. Basically it's like saying gangsta or hustler which isn't a crip or blood thing.

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Unread postby bgcasper » January 9th, 2018, 8:40 am

es blood the stone piru set also claimed rollin at one point

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Unread postby HEADHUNNAGANGX4 » January 10th, 2018, 12:11 am

Yeah that's rolling 30 piru , but yeah Alex said it himself in 10 oldest damu gangs rolling 20's bloods the oldest blood gang there was different rolling 20 gangs back to the 1920's , now nhb and outlaws are the two left out of all the different ones , nhb used to be HFB Hoover family bloods ,and swans was the first blood gang ,

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Unread postby Pico2jeff » January 10th, 2018, 8:55 am

HEADHUNNAGANGX4 wrote:Yeah that's rolling 30 piru , but yeah Alex said it himself in 10 oldest damu gangs rolling 20's bloods the oldest blood gang there was different rolling 20 gangs back to the 1920's , now nhb and outlaws are the two left out of all the different ones , nhb used to be HFB Hoover family bloods ,and swans was the first blood gang ,

R20s NHB was never Hoover Park Family but when HPF started dying out the 1s left turned r20s NHB. Willie D, Henry (R.i.p), and Strawberry are some of the HPF that i know who turned 20s. Also Madd Ronald said the HPF were R20s HPF at 1 point and there is still 20s around Hoover park on Adams and Hoover but its mostly Harpys around that park.

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Unread postby bgcasper » January 10th, 2018, 8:02 pm

first blood gang according to elgin is them brims lol dont know what to say

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Unread postby HEADHUNNAGANGX4 » January 10th, 2018, 11:27 pm

bgcasper wrote:first blood gang according to elgin is them brims lol dont know what to say


I think that's what Alex was saying that's why there called SWANS it has to do with the BIRTH OF BLOODS , THE MOTHER SWAN OF THE SET , laid the golden egg ,

They wear white flags too

Came from MAIN STREET back when it was just crips , then MAD SWANS broke off and became the first anti Crip gang , then the pirus was crips for awhile and broke off called who knew piru fooled u , and I heard the brims used to wear blue for the letter B for brims b4 becoming bloods

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Unread postby bgcasper » January 11th, 2018, 3:00 am

i read that from og lee interview in a book forgot wich one og general lee brims army

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Unread postby LosAngeles94 » January 20th, 2018, 4:31 pm

The bloods got the ES Rollin thing going with:
R20’s-R40’sPirus

The WS Rollin Car:
R40’s-R100’s(sometimes R30’s lol)

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Unread postby LionTheOracle » January 20th, 2018, 6:50 pm

bgcasper wrote:first blood gang according to elgin is them brims lol dont know what to say


So for Brims have a year of 1969 or 1968 depending on how you look at it. Blood Alley is 1955, but Neighborhood is 1970. Outlaws date back to 1960, and Roman 20's possibly a little earlier.

The blood identity comes mid 70's so how you identify the first pre-blood gang which became bloods depends on how you tightly you couple generational transfer of gangs from old names to new.

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Unread postby bgcasper » January 20th, 2018, 7:37 pm

i agree it depend on what u definine as bloods ...also what matters ??rag color or anticripness ??? ...but seems any non crip black hood would face the same dual mathematik at one point join cuzz or anti cuzz ....wasnt no 3 sides first it was simple ... turn cuzz or become anti cuzzz ...so than if thats the definition of bloods than elgin can say brim were one of the first anti crip gang ..no roman 20's or blood alley ever beefed with crips while elgin was at freemont battling with the first crips

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Unread postby LionTheOracle » January 20th, 2018, 9:02 pm

bgcasper wrote:i agree it depend on what u definine as bloods ...also what matters ??rag color or anticripness ??? ...but seems any non crip black hood would face the same dual mathematik at one point join cuzz or anti cuzz ....wasnt no 3 sides first it was simple ... turn cuzz or become anti cuzzz ...so than if thats the definition of bloods than elgin can say brim were one of the first anti crip gang ..no roman 20's or blood alley ever beefed with crips while elgin was at freemont battling with the first crips


That seems a bit unreasonable though. Crips and Brims started their rivalry not just when they came to the west side, but when they expanded to a closer downtown area. As suggested by Pookie, they were too remote. Although they may have been one of the first gangs to rival against the Crips you'd have to suggest the Sportsman Park Boys, so it gets weird. That wouldn't fit too well. Also you have the Denver Lane Gang who was very early resister of the West Side Crips along side the Sportsman Park Boys. Timeline wise Piru St. Boys had a very early show down with the East Side Crips, and Bounty Hunters started in 1971 specifically to push the East Side Crips outside of watts.

It's very hard to say who was the first official anti-Crip gang. Timelines are blurry enough as it is. And that makes it even harder to place the first blood gang, because that throws out all the individual gangs actual history and focuses directly on who started fighting the Crips first. That would be unfair to suggest who was the first blood gang.


So I would ask just for kicks when do you think there became an actual rivalry between Brims and Crips?

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Unread postby LionTheOracle » January 20th, 2018, 9:07 pm

And just for notes: Athens Parks, and Dever Lanes were at the Rio Show that ended in a stabbing that clearly defined them as Crip enemies in 1971 when Crips came to the West Side.

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Unread postby HEADHUNNAGANGX4 » January 20th, 2018, 9:56 pm

ok all this bacvk n 4ourth of you LITERAL MINDED CATz^ reguardlessk of who was 1st the topic is about why damus push rollin , reguardlessk wrong or right my answer was bloods started the rollin name with the 20's , so i could be way off on other off topic matters but if eneone has a better answer on topic be dope , didint want to throw things off,

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Unread postby LosAngeles94 » January 21st, 2018, 4:18 pm

It’s crazy how terms like “cuz,blood(young blood),lok where just LA terms everybody used and called each other before gangbanging came in to play

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Unread postby bgcasper » January 22nd, 2018, 12:40 am

[quote="LionTheOracle"]And just for notes: Athens Parks, and Dever Lanes were at the Rio Show that ended in a stabbing that clearly defined them as Crip enemies in 1971 when Crips came to the West Side.[/quote]
welll green jacket predate all that ...the pygmi was throwin fur coated missiles at mack thomas og crip or crib or whatever also the miles family are they the figueroa boys ???? i mean green jacket was to me the first since ray asked lavender's bro to kill an og green jacket og rhea had crips ace duece hat dancing all over watts border with his winchester lolol first big crip enemie and problem to me was the green jacket ....watts festival legendary battles are a testimony of that

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Unread postby bgcasper » January 22nd, 2018, 12:50 am

theres not a million of powerhouse
inglewood ..chain gang those are the og enemies of first ws crips but the og enemies of the first crips are weither green jacket wich is my opinion weither swans if the miles family is related to the swans or figueroa boys since miles family was the first to draw bloods with crips in 69
brims since elgin was at freemont with ray thats the early days ..i mean the crips had enemies way before bulldogg pushed his westside west of broadway so dont think any ws gang would have the title of first anti crip gang

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Unread postby bgcasper » January 22nd, 2018, 12:53 am

watts would be the first to me ...and a gang who control both jd and ng like green jacket did pretty much own most of watts ....them dude was beefin and collecting ace duce hat even before skipp from bishop was killed

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Unread postby bgcasper » January 22nd, 2018, 12:55 am

athens ..green jacket ..figueroa boys .. chain gang ..brims ...choose one ...

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Unread postby swanto57 » April 3rd, 2018, 9:15 pm

LionTheOracle wrote:And just for notes: Athens Parks, and Dever Lanes were at the Rio Show that ended in a stabbing that clearly defined them as Crip enemies in 1971 when Crips came to the West Side.


L.A Brims under the leadership of Eddie Watts was at it with the Cribs in early 1970 at Freemont high school

So Brims most definitely was the first Anti Crip gang at war with the Crips

Some would even argue Piru was Crip affiliated until 1972 when the fall-out took place

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Unread postby bgcasper » April 4th, 2018, 3:07 am

yes regarding being first anti crips piru would fall behind some hoods but when it comes to blood identity piru are the first to wear red and call each others blood as gang tradition others would flame way later like ifg who would not claim blood until the 80's

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Unread postby swanto57 » April 5th, 2018, 2:30 pm

bgcasper wrote:yes regarding being first anti crips piru would fall behind some hoods but when it comes to blood identity piru are the first to wear red and call each others blood as gang tradition others would flame way later like ifg who would not claim blood until the 80's


The first gang in L.A with a Blood identity was the Blood Alley gang.

The term Blood was used by everybody.

Piru was rolling with Crips in the beginning "

Brims started wearing red in 1972 & created the term suwoop

Brims was the gang that got everybody together to battle the Crips and they was everywhere in the 70's

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Unread postby VSxOC » April 6th, 2018, 3:22 pm

swanto57 wrote:
bgcasper wrote:yes regarding being first anti crips piru would fall behind some hoods but when it comes to blood identity piru are the first to wear red and call each others blood as gang tradition others would flame way later like ifg who would not claim blood until the 80's


The first gang in L.A with a Blood identity was the Blood Alley gang.

The term Blood was used by everybody.

Piru was rolling with Crips in the beginning "

Brims started wearing red in 1972 & created the term suwoop

Brims was the gang that got everybody together to battle the Crips and they was everywhere in the 70's

Manual art Brims
Inglewood Brims
Eastside Aliso Village Brims
Mid City Brims
Black Stone Brims
Untouchable Brims
Century Brims
Van ness park Brims
Mid City Brims
40 Avenue Brims



I've heard of red rags originally belonging to piru so did bring get the red from piru or else where?

And to put it to rest, did Rollin officially come from 60s or did it exist before hand but was just made "mainstream" by 60s? Thanks.

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Unread postby VSxOC » April 6th, 2018, 3:22 pm

swanto57 wrote:
bgcasper wrote:yes regarding being first anti crips piru would fall behind some hoods but when it comes to blood identity piru are the first to wear red and call each others blood as gang tradition others would flame way later like ifg who would not claim blood until the 80's


The first gang in L.A with a Blood identity was the Blood Alley gang.

The term Blood was used by everybody.

Piru was rolling with Crips in the beginning "

Brims started wearing red in 1972 & created the term suwoop

Brims was the gang that got everybody together to battle the Crips and they was everywhere in the 70's

Manual art Brims
Inglewood Brims
Eastside Aliso Village Brims
Mid City Brims
Black Stone Brims
Untouchable Brims
Century Brims
Van ness park Brims
Mid City Brims
40 Avenue Brims



I've heard of red rags originally belonging to piru so did brims get the red from piru or else where?

And to put it to rest, did Rollin officially come from 60s or did it exist before hand but was just made "mainstream" by 60s? Thanks.

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Unread postby bgcasper » April 7th, 2018, 8:10 pm

well its up for debate ...

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Unread postby VSxOC » April 8th, 2018, 12:35 am

Nobody is talking about why bloods push rolling

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swanto57 wrote:
bgcasper wrote:yes regarding being first anti crips piru would fall behind some hoods but when it comes to blood identity piru are the first to wear red and call each others blood as gang tradition others would flame way later like ifg who would not claim blood until the 80's


The first gang in L.A with a Blood identity was the Blood Alley gang.

The term Blood was used by everybody.

Piru was rolling with Crips in the beginning "

Brims started wearing red in 1972 & created the term suwoop

Brims was the gang that got everybody together to battle the Crips and they was everywhere in the 70's

Manual art Brims
Inglewood Brims
Eastside Aliso Village Brims
Mid City Brims
Black Stone Brims
Untouchable Brims
Century Brims
Van ness park Brims
Mid City Brims
40 Avenue Brims



I've heard of red rags originally belonging to piru so did brims get the red from piru or else where?

And to put it to rest, did Rollin officially come from 60s or did it exist before hand but was just made "mainstream" by 60s? Thanks.


Brims and Piru's both wore Blue rags in the beginning but it didn't stand for Cripping yet.

After Westside Crip member Buddha was killed,The Crips wore blue in his memory because Buddha always wore blue rags...

It was after that incident that blue rags meant Cripping so the Brims started wearing red rags / 72 - 73

They brought the red rags to the Piru's after they had a fall-out with the Crips and had a party on Piru st

From that moment forward Brims & Piru's went to war with Crips and brought in other anti Crip gangs in the alliance as well.

And the term Rolling existed before Rolling 60's.
Alot of car clubs back in the days used Rolling in they club name.

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Unread postby bgcasper » April 10th, 2018, 12:10 am

this in total oposition of what og said go watch km video channel and come back correct

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Unread postby swanto57 » April 12th, 2018, 4:21 pm

bgcasper wrote:this in total oposition of what og said go watch km video channel and come back correct



You'll learn the full truth in Elgin Trammel book

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Unread postby bgcasper » April 13th, 2018, 6:47 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAwN95VEzdw this original contredict and shake you and elgin version ac do get along that og version

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Unread postby HEADHUNNAGANGX4 » April 14th, 2018, 7:56 pm

What happened to the subject of rolling bloods , I started the off subject and the literal minds ran off with that lol smh , and I heard suwhoop was started by big wy as he said on the song he started the whoop literally , and a homie of mine said he did as well , but I think I heard him say once a female started it , but did eneone get to the bottom of rolling bloods last I spoke on it , 20 bloods started the term rolling , rolling 20s means 1920s and there were multiple 20 gangs then , but I think I heard on Kev mac that 60s started it ,


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