The AVENUES & LA EME (Mexican Mafia)

Discuss Hispanic gangs, Southsiders, Sureños in LOS ANGELES COUNTY ONLY. There are four general geographic categories Hispanic gangs fall into for LA.
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Re: THE AVENUES AND LA EME

Unread post by 19DAGO04 » May 9th, 2010, 7:24 pm

I stand corrected on part of the the reasons why Cavasos was voted out:
http://www.mongolsmc.com/sub/outbad

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Unread post by mayugastank » May 9th, 2010, 7:42 pm

19DAGO04 wrote:I stand corrected on part of the the reasons why Cavasos was voted out:
http://www.mongolsmc.com/sub/outbad
THANK YOU , that was very gracious,but I need you to say in bold caps that MAYUGASTANK WAS RIGHT I WAS WRONG> HE IS LIKE GOD AND HE KNOWS EVERYTHING. Otherwise you can take your retraction and shove it up your rectum :P

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Unread post by 19DAGO04 » May 9th, 2010, 8:52 pm

MAYUGASTANK WAS RIGHT I WAS WRONG> HE IS LIKE GOD AND HE KNOWS EVERYTHING.


How's that? i don't like the feel of foreign objects in my culo. Retraction or not....
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Unread post by wickedthoughtts » June 8th, 2010, 12:56 pm

oh here's an update on avenues:

An Avenues gangster testified in court that an alleged cop killer said he "fucked up" when he heard the news that he fatally shot Los Angeles County Deputy Sheriff Juan Escalante in the early morning hours of August 2, 2008.
Deputy Juan Escalante


Greg Mondragon, 15, was one of a handful of Drew Street clique of Highland Park's Avenues, who testified in the two-day preliminary hearing that began May 24 in downtown Los Angeles. Jose "Snapper" Renteria, 18, and 28-year-old Arnoldo Pineda are charged with the capital murder of Escalante who was gunned down in front of his Cypress Park home in the 3400 block of Thorpe Avenue as he was preparing to go to work at the Men's Central Jail.

Also charged with his murder are Guillermo "Pee Wee" Hernandez and Carlos "Stoney" Velasquez. Their preliminary hearing is scheduled for the fall. Another suspect, Armando "Chivo" Albarran is still at large.

Mondragon, who was in custody on a parole violation, told Superior Court judge William R. Pounders that on the morning of the shooting, alleged shooter Velasquez, who heard on the news that a deputy had been shot in Cypress Park, told Renteria: "I fucked up." Los Angeles County prosecutors believe that Renteria provided Velasquez with the gun that killed the 27-year-old deputy.

Pineda, who sat quietly next to Renteria and his attorney, admitted he was the driver to police officers but claimed that Velasquez pulled a gun on him and forced him to drive him and his pals around Cypress Park on their hunt for rival gangsters.

Escalante was shot multiple times, including three shots to the head, with a .40-caliber Glock pistol. It remains unclear whether the shooting of Escalante, a former U.S. Army reservist, was a simple case of mistaken gang identity as Mondragon alleged.

Last year, federal prosecutors claimed in a 222-page federal indictment that Escalante was gunned down in an act of asymmetrical retribution, payback for the spectacular LAPD shootout on Drew Street in June 2008 that forced the closure of local streets, caused the evacuation of two nearby public schools -- and left AK-47-wielding Drew Street gangster Danny "Clever" Leon bloodied and dead in the street.

Mondragon, who smiled regularly at Renteria during his testimony, said that after the Escalante shooting he was instructed by a Mexican Mafia member to find the Glock. He said he found the gun hidden in a shoe box in the back of Renteria's Drew Street home.

At one point during Mondragon's testimony, Renteria, whose hair was slicked back in a ponytail, mouthed "I love you." Mondragon flashed a gang sign back at him.

Renteria was arrested April 16, 2009 at the Eastlake Juvenile Detention Center, where he was being held on a parole violation for a previous drug offense.

Renteria is also charged with the attempted murder of 23-year-old Luis Piche, a former Highland Park gang member. The most dramatic point of the hearing came when Piche took the stand and told the judge that he had been shot 14 times as he was walking down York Boulevard in Northeast Los Angeles in May of 2007.

When he was asked by the prosecutor if he recognized the shooter in the court room, he paused for close to a minute to glare at Renteria before he replied: "I am at a loss for words."

When pushed by the prosecutor to identify the gunman who allegedly continued to shoot him with a SKS rifle 10 more times as he lay almost dead on the sidewalk, Piche replied: "I can't. Like I said it happened fast."

When he was asked if he was angry because he sees the person who shot him, he replied: "Yes, I am. "

As he was being escorted out of the courtroom by a Los Angeles Police Department detective, Piche was breathing heavily and staring at the younger gangster who was told by a deputy to look away.

At the end of the hearing on Tuesday, Pounders said there was enough evidence for the men to stand trial for Escalante's murder.


"i love you" hahahahahaha classic

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Unread post by Cold Bear » June 9th, 2010, 1:56 pm

wickedthoughtts wrote:
At one point during Mondragon's testimony, Renteria, whose hair was slicked back in a ponytail, mouthed "I love you." Mondragon flashed a gang sign back at him.




"i love you" hahahahahaha classic

Uh yeah what's all that about?

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Unread post by mayugastank » June 9th, 2010, 10:38 pm

Cold Bear wrote:
wickedthoughtts wrote:
At one point during Mondragon's testimony, Renteria, whose hair was slicked back in a ponytail, mouthed "I love you." Mondragon flashed a gang sign back at him.




"i love you" hahahahahaha classic

Uh yeah what's all that about?

Its what the homies say to eachother........I love you homey.....it doesnt have gay connotations. I am reading between the lines but I get the feeling that Velasquez was the main shooter and he probably took all the blame and told his homies that he would be the fall guy. So essentially when his homies are telling on him it sounds like thats what he wants to happen.But I dont know-just guessing

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Unread post by AztecNinja » June 22nd, 2010, 7:27 pm

Man I just read this thread and it brought tears to my eyes, Sergio Sanchez from HLP was a childhood friend, he was one of the OG's from our tagging crew. I remember when this happened and this article brought back memories, I ended up getting into a different Varrio than Sergio which ended our friendship but I can say he was one of the best friends I had growing up. CUREONE BSK CREW RIP, AKA YOGI HLP BSL Click, RIP homie. Respect to Herman AKA WICKED HLP RIP.

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Re: THE AVENUES AND LA EME

Unread post by alexalonso » June 13th, 2012, 4:40 am

mnjmc wrote:
mayugastank wrote:I read an article where Chapo Guzman had a guy working for him in LA who transported hundreds of millions of dollars and coke thru his grocery chain, major organized crime......guess who tried to tax that guy? The EME associate would eventually get murked for trying but they would come back and kill dudes 2 brothers and bring his business to the end. We are talking about teh worlds largest supplier of drugs getting taxed for his shipments.

No EME did not end George's business the feds did. His business was doing just fine until he got hit with RICO charges.

The government forced him to give up his grocery chain, EME had nothing to do with it.
I heard that eMe was trying to run that grocery chain, but not sure if they were sucessful. I also heard a rumor (not verified) that eMe initially invested into the market chain and that multiple members became business partners. Not sure about that though

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Unread post by AztecNinja » June 13th, 2012, 1:20 pm

mayugastank wrote:
perongregory wrote:
mayugastank wrote:Yea I read about this guy -I looked far and wide for this article -good find! Thanks. The story here is that he collected a percentage of taxes. In one neighborhood. The Aves are highly organized and collect all thru Los Angelos. They tax people into Montebello and all thru North East LA and East LA. They were taxing the mongols MC. A few Avenues members were selling dope and then finding more people to tax. They sold to members of the Mongols and then demanded that they buy and sell all their dope thru the Aves. When the Mongols refused to pay taxes they were greenlighted. The Aves also work really close with Toonerville gangsters. The notorious murders in atwater were hits on rivals and people who refused to pay rent. The guy from Toonerville had a real close working relationship with AVES. What throws me off is the amount of gangbanging they are allowed to do against other sureno varrios in the area. I hear they throw their weight around and blast cypress park and other enemies then go back and have them greenlighted over BS issues like not paying taxes or whatever...for what its worth those neighborhoods that oppose the Aves in NELA are finished. Also of course they have women and snitches all groups do. But I focused on their connections to real big organized crime, sneaking illegals into the US and smuggling major weight, taxing to a new level and top down being the most connected varrio in LA ,more so then any other hood I can think of. Not 18 or f13 or Hazard where tons of EME comes from have the weight of the aves.
nah HLxP, CxP, and Dogtown are well and alive. But Avenues are the boss over in NELA no doubt about that.


Yea....I read that 6 HLP got shot up and then the dudes who did it claimed they put them on blast because they werent paying rent -so they couldnt even counter attack
I wouldnt say that, look up Thumper from Cypress Aves. And from what I know it was 4 dudes from HLP in like one week, Yogi,Wicked,Nite Owl,Topo.

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Re: The AVENUES & LA EME (Mexican Mafia)

Unread post by AztecNinja » June 13th, 2012, 1:24 pm

The other two during that murderous couple of weeks was from CP Boys. That was the hottest I have ever seen NeLos get. That LAPD had to set up a mobile station on Fig and York then, it was brutal.

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Unread post by Lonewolf » June 18th, 2012, 9:52 pm

AztecNinja wrote:The other two during that murderous couple of weeks was from CP Boys. That was the hottest I have ever seen NeLos get. That LAPD had to set up a mobile station on Fig and York then, it was brutal.
stop telling on the Boys, homie

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Lonewolf wrote:
AztecNinja wrote:The other two during that murderous couple of weeks was from CP Boys. That was the hottest I have ever seen NeLos get. That LAPD had to set up a mobile station on Fig and York then, it was brutal.
stop telling on the Boys, homie
Your not serious are you?

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Unread post by alexalonso » June 19th, 2012, 9:30 pm

Who knows the very first Avenues member en La eMe?

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Unread post by AztecNinja » June 19th, 2012, 9:48 pm

Lonewolf wrote:
AztecNinja wrote:The other two during that murderous couple of weeks was from CP Boys. That was the hottest I have ever seen NeLos get. That LAPD had to set up a mobile station on Fig and York then, it was brutal.
stop telling on the Boys, homie
Not sure how to take that, elaborate please. If you think I posted something everyone from that side of town doesnt already know than you must not know the streets of NELOS very well.

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Unread post by AztecNinja » June 19th, 2012, 9:49 pm

alexalonso wrote:Who knows the very first Avenues member en La eMe?
Psycho Aguirre? Just a guess.

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Unread post by alexalonso » June 21st, 2012, 6:00 pm

AztecNinja wrote:
alexalonso wrote:Who knows the very first Avenues member en La eMe?
Psycho Aguirre? Just a guess.
I believe Eddie "Fast Eddie" Torres was the first member of La Eme. He was inducted during the early 1960s, before any of the Aguirre's were on the seen.

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Unread post by spadeloc » June 22nd, 2012, 9:09 am

I would have to assume ....the aves had so much influence in la eme because of their capacity for drug dealing....from what I understand drew st seemed to be a real hotspot....its been shown that more than anything eme is about money.....for example ...two other gangs very closely associated with la eme....18st and f13....both known for their extensive drug dealing .

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Unread post by alexalonso » June 22nd, 2012, 11:14 am

spadeloc wrote:I would have to assume ....the aves had so much influence in la eme because of their capacity for drug dealing....from what I understand drew st seemed to be a real hotspot....its been shown that more than anything eme is about money.....for example ...two other gangs very closely associated with la eme....18st and f13....both known for their extensive drug dealing .

If your hood is irrelevant, does not have a bunch a dope fiends and junkies, they really dont care. The Avenues have been a part of La Eme during the 1960s and when the drugs came on the scene, they continued to get membership in La Eme. According to my compilation, the Avenues have had 8 people in La Eme over the years.

I dont know if "Fast Eddie" is still around, but he must have been the guy that laid the foundation for future Eme membership.

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Unread post by alexalonso » June 22nd, 2012, 2:43 pm

Here is a pic of Edward "Fast Ed" Torres. The photo is from Ramon "Mundo" Mendoza's book, "From Alter Boy to Hit Man" which I recommend.

Tell me Eddie don't look like a straight killer.
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Unread post by Quepolo3 » June 22nd, 2012, 4:00 pm

He def. looks like he's done some dirt during his life!

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Unread post by alexalonso » June 22nd, 2012, 8:43 pm

Quepolo3 wrote:He def. looks like he's done some dirt during his life!


Look in the eyes, they always give it away. I usually can pick the killer out of a 6-pack by looking at the eyes. I am correct over 80% of the time. By just looking into the eyes. Look at Eddie's eyes. This guy has killed multiple times without even thinking about it. I really want to know where he is today. He left La Eme in 1973, but not sure what the details of his departure was. Dont know if he debriefed or just disappeared.

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mayugastank wrote:By KENNETH OFGANG, Staff Writer



The Court of Appeal for this district has affirmed the murder convictions of a gang leader, based on testimony that he ordered the killing of one of his fellow gang members and drove the getaway car following the murder of another.

Javier Medina Marquez, identified in court as a member of the Avenues gang as well as the Mexican Mafia, is serving life-without-parole sentences for the killings of Allan Downey and Randy Morales, with witness murder and multiple murder special circumstances.

In 1995, Los Angeles police investigating the deaths of Sergio and Herman Sanchez, who were brothers and members of the rival Highland Park gang, spoke to Morales, an Avenues member in juvenile hall. Morales identified Marquez as the killer.

Morales, age 16, was killed on the night of Oct. 5, 1996 after attending a party near a prominent Avenues location.

Marquez was acquitted of the Sanchez murders in 1998. He was charged with the Morales murder along with fellow gang members George Vidales and Gerardo Reyes.

After two hung juries, prosecutors entered into a plea agreement with Vidales, who testified against Reyes and Marquez at the third trial.

Vidales testified that he had been approached at the party by Reyes and Vince Caldera, another Avenues-Mexican Mafia individual, who explained that Marquez wanted Morales killed before he could testify about the Sanchez murders. Vidales said the pair asked him to help lure Morales away by promising to take Morales to pick up a handgun Vidales had borrowed from him.

Morales left in a van with Vidales, Reyes and Caldera, Vidales said, and the group was later joined by Marvin Ponce, another Avenues member, before Vidales brought the van to a stop on a secluded back street, and watched Reyes shoot Morales in the head.

Reyes and Marquez were found guilty of the Morales murder. Reyes’ conviction was affirmed by Div. Eight in July of this year.

Marquez was also found guilty of killing Downey, apparently because Downey was thought to be withholding drug money from the Mexican Mafia.

Downey was shot three times as he drove along Eagle Rock Blvd. during early morning hours in the summer of 1995. A witness identified Marquez as the driver of the vehicle from which the shots were fired.

Another witness testified that Richie Aguirre, a fellow gang member and brother of a drug dealer Downey allegedly worked for, admitted being the shooter and said that Marquez was the driver.

On appeal, Marquez argued that Aguirre’s statement implicating him as the driver was testimonial hearsay and should have been excluded under the Evidence Code and/or the Confrontation Clause.

Presiding Justice Candace Cooper, however, in her unpublished opinion for Div. Eight, said the hearsay statement was not “testimonial”—and thus its admission did not violate the Confrontation Clause—because it was not made to a government agent.

Nor, Cooper said, was the statement inadmissible under state law, since the declaration-against-interest exception applied to Aguirre’s statement implicating both himself and the defendant.

Aguirre, the jurist noted, “did not attempt to shift blame to appellant or diminish his role at appellant’s expense; and in fact, he emphasized appellant’s relatively minor role as simply the getaway driver.”

Any error, she added, was harmless because the statement it was duplicative of other evidence, including the eyewitness identification of Marquez as the driver and testimony regarding his affiliation with the Mexican Mafia and the reason the organization wanted Downey dead.

Cooper also rejected the defense contention that Morales’ statement implicating Marquez in the killing of the Sanchez brothers was testimonial hearsay. The jurist agreed with the trial judge, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Larry Fidler, that the statement, having been admitted to show the motive for Morales’ murder rather than its truth, was not hearsay.

Also rejected was the argument that Vidales’ testimony was insufficiently corroborated to be admitted under the accomplice rule. The presiding justice cited evidence that gang members regarded Morales as a “rat;” that the Mexican Mafia usually kills such persons; that Marquez had access to information about Morales as a result of discovery that had been turned over to the defense in connection with the Sanchez murders; and that Morales’ murder was conducted in the manner of a Mexican Mafia “hit,” namely by having someone the victim trusted lure him to a secluded spot.

The case is People v. Marquez, B193733.
Randy "Muppet" Morales, who was about 16 at the time was killed by his own Avenues members because of the LAPD. When the police picked up Morales on a minor violation, they had pressured him to provide information about 2 Highland Park members that were recently murdered, Sergio and Herman Sanchez. Young Morales told the police that he did not know who killed them but that he heard, fellow Avenues member, Javier "Gangster" Marquez admitted to him of killing 5 people, so the LAPD detectives, put those notes in the murder book back in 1995.

When detectives Andy Teague and John Berdin eventually filed a case against Marquez in Feb of 1996, they did not redact the name of Randy Morales" from the murder book, so when the defense attorneys saw it, it eventually got back to the defendant then to other avenues members, and the murder of young Morales was ordered. Detectives are usually really good at redacting all the witness names, but either an overlook, or deliberately done, Randy "Muppet" Morales was looking like a snitch in the eyes of the Avenues members.

Ironically, Marquez was found not guilty of the HighLand Park murder and most likely had nothing to do with it, but if it was not for the Northeast LAPD detectives, Morales would not have been murdered.

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Unread post by cliffard » July 21st, 2012, 2:24 pm

alexalonso wrote:Here is a pic of Edward "Fast Ed" Torres. The photo is from Ramon "Mundo" Mendoza's book, "From Alter Boy to Hit Man" which I recommend.

Tell me Eddie don't look like a straight killer.
mans got the thousand yard stare for sure...

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Unread post by JayBird » September 11th, 2012, 6:21 pm

About 60% of the info in this thread is inaccurate, not that I know every detail but ive heard differently about some topics listed.

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Unread post by alexalonso » September 12th, 2012, 10:22 am

JayBird wrote:About 60% of the info in this thread is inaccurate, not that I know every detail but ive heard differently about some topics listed.
Be specific about this thread. We don't want false information being posted here without being checked. Speak!

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Unread post by AztecNinja » December 22nd, 2012, 7:07 pm

Hey Alonso I saw a article you posted in like 2009 about the Aves killing a lil girl. In the Pic though you have guys from HLP. Guys I grew up with since I was knee high....Speedy,Trigger,Raskal and Droopy former members of the Back Street Kings Tagging crew.

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