Could a Black gang earn a "13"?

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Re: Could a Black gang earn a "13"?

Unread post by LAResident » October 15th, 2018, 2:36 pm

Poserz are a 13 gang started by blacks

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Re: Could a Black gang earn a "13"?

Unread post by HNIC » October 15th, 2018, 5:36 pm

LAResident wrote:Poserz are a 13 gang started by blacks
Poserz didn't start as eses, they were a mostly Black (founders) but mixed race independent gang that borrowed styles from various gang cultures: Cs/Bs, eses, stoners, punk rockers, mods... Their 13 predates the Eme thing and references marijuana/rifa... other independent gangs like Sex Jerx and KOD and many others used 13 during the mid-80s... Poserz transitioned into full eses by the early 90s and kept the 13, while Sex Jerx and others dropped the 13 by 1988-89 and transitioned into Crips, Bloods, or became defunct

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Re: Could a Black gang earn a "13"?

Unread post by LAResident » October 15th, 2018, 6:28 pm

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LAResident wrote:Poserz are a 13 gang started by blacks
Poserz didn't start as eses, they were a mostly Black (founders) but mixed race independent gang that borrowed styles from various gang cultures: Cs/Bs, eses, stoners, punk rockers, mods... Their 13 predates the Eme thing and references marijuana/rifa... other independent gangs like Sex Jerx and KOD and many others used 13 during the mid-80s... Poserz transitioned into full eses by the early 90s and kept the 13, while Sex Jerx and others dropped the 13 by 1988-89 and transitioned into Crips, Bloods, or became defunct
their 13 wasn’t earned like traditional hoods but they still sureños

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Re: Could a Black gang earn a "13"?

Unread post by HNIC » October 15th, 2018, 9:13 pm

LAResident wrote:
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LAResident wrote:Poserz are a 13 gang started by blacks
Poserz didn't start as eses, they were a mostly Black (founders) but mixed race independent gang that borrowed styles from various gang cultures: Cs/Bs, eses, stoners, punk rockers, mods... Their 13 predates the Eme thing and references marijuana/rifa... other independent gangs like Sex Jerx and KOD and many others used 13 during the mid-80s... Poserz transitioned into full eses by the early 90s and kept the 13, while Sex Jerx and others dropped the 13 by 1988-89 and transitioned into Crips, Bloods, or became defunct
their 13 wasn’t earned like traditional hoods but they still sureños
Yes their 13 wasn't "earned" in that way, but many gangs in LA used 13 on some stoner shit in different ways prior to "Surenos" and before 13 had to be "earned" on any level... Even Florencia was F13 before the Eme really snatched and branded that number... Poserz, Sex Jerx, and KOD all used 13 at some point, Poserz kept 13 and transitioned into eses/surenos somehow, I'll let them tell you how...

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Re: Could a Black gang earn a "13"?

Unread post by LAResident » October 15th, 2018, 9:17 pm

you can’t compare F13 to poserz...they shouldn’t even be in same sentence.

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Re: Could a Black gang earn a "13"?

Unread post by LAResident » October 15th, 2018, 9:18 pm

Florence got pull and get away with stuff...poserz a former party crew. Enough said.

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Re: Could a Black gang earn a "13"?

Unread post by HNIC » October 15th, 2018, 9:24 pm

HNIC wrote:
LAResident wrote:
HNIC wrote:
LAResident wrote:Poserz are a 13 gang started by blacks
Poserz didn't start as eses, they were a mostly Black (founders) but mixed race independent gang that borrowed styles from various gang cultures: Cs/Bs, eses, stoners, punk rockers, mods... Their 13 predates the Eme thing and references marijuana/rifa... other independent gangs like Sex Jerx and KOD and many others used 13 during the mid-80s... Poserz transitioned into full eses by the early 90s and kept the 13, while Sex Jerx and others dropped the 13 by 1988-89 and transitioned into Crips, Bloods, or became defunct
their 13 wasn’t earned like traditional hoods but they still sureños
Yes their 13 wasn't "earned" in that way, but many gangs in LA used 13 on some stoner shit in different ways prior to "Surenos" and before 13 had to be "earned" on any level... Even Florencia was F13 before the Eme really snatched and branded that number... Poserz, Sex Jerx, and KOD all used 13 at some point, Poserz kept 13 and transitioned into eses/surenos somehow, I'll let them tell you how...
Using "13" in gangs was prior to the Sureno branding of that number, the 13th letter is M/eme and was used in the early-mid 80s by stoner influenced gangs as a Rifa reference not necessarily as Surenos, they branded that number really a few years later... Poserz used 13 before they were even eses, their Black founders used 13 on some stoner gang shit

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Re: Could a Black gang earn a "13"?

Unread post by LAResident » October 15th, 2018, 9:31 pm

Everything you told me I’ve been knowing this. I don’t need to be schooled in things that I already know. Like I stated earlier their 13 isn’t earned. It was just part of their name.

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Re: Could a Black gang earn a "13"?

Unread post by HNIC » October 15th, 2018, 9:36 pm

Not schooling you pre se, just expanding on the gang that you brought up...

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Re: Could a Black gang earn a "13"?

Unread post by HNIC » October 15th, 2018, 9:40 pm

LAResident wrote:Florence got pull and get away with stuff...poserz a former party crew. Enough said.
How old are you?

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Re: Could a Black gang earn a "13"?

Unread post by HNIC » October 15th, 2018, 9:47 pm

HNIC wrote:
LAResident wrote:Florence got pull and get away with stuff...poserz a former party crew. Enough said.
How old are you?
Every gang starts as a "party crew" at some point, they become popular and start taking relevance in their area... various "Park Boys" throughout LA County were really just popular guys in their neighborhood

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Re: Could a Black gang earn a "13"?

Unread post by LAResident » October 15th, 2018, 10:01 pm

Not every gang started as a party crew....

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Re: Could a Black gang earn a "13"?

Unread post by LAResident » October 15th, 2018, 10:03 pm

Some started as car clubs, football teams, social groups, taggers and SOME as party crews.

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Re: Could a Black gang earn a "13"?

Unread post by HNIC » October 15th, 2018, 10:11 pm

car clubs, football teams, social groups, taggers, party crews, all that is where it starts... the Campanella Park Boys were first just local dudes at that park that turned Piru... every gang starts with a crew that evolves into a bigger crew that either claims this or that or dies out

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Re: Could a Black gang earn a "13"?

Unread post by LAResident » October 15th, 2018, 10:13 pm

HNIC wrote:car clubs, football teams, social groups, taggers, party crews, all that is where it starts... the Campanella Park Boys were first just local dudes at that park that turned Piru... every gang starts with a crew that evolves into a bigger crew that either claims this or that or dies out
I agree

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Re: Could a Black gang earn a "13"?

Unread post by HNIC » October 15th, 2018, 10:20 pm

LAResident wrote:
HNIC wrote:car clubs, football teams, social groups, taggers, party crews, all that is where it starts... the Campanella Park Boys were first just local dudes at that park that turned Piru... every gang starts with a crew that evolves into a bigger crew that either claims this or that or dies out
I agree[/quote]
OK... so why hate on the origin of a certain gang as a "party crew" as if that's a bad thing?...

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Re: Could a Black gang earn a "13"?

Unread post by LAResident » October 16th, 2018, 5:50 am

Ain’t no one hating on them. There’s nothing to hate on them about....

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Re: Could a Black gang earn a "13"?

Unread post by Muslim32 » October 16th, 2018, 6:44 am

What sureno gang is that black dude that be posting all on YouTube from ?

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Re: Could a Black gang earn a "13"?

Unread post by LAResident » October 16th, 2018, 6:47 am

Sunland Park Locos 13

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Re: Could a Black gang earn a "13"?

Unread post by Lonewolf » October 18th, 2018, 12:42 am

LosAngeles94 wrote:So every other race could adopt the 13 except the blacks... native Americans,Asians,middle easterns,Indians etc.. but not blacks??? Ok
Nah holmes, what im talking about is that the way things play out in the old chicano gang culture which still dominates politics in southern california, and put things together with the way cuzzins and bloods dominate the black gang culture, well I can't see a black 13 gang happening under such structures that exist from old.

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