Mid City Stoners (MCS) near Western, Pico to Washington

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Mid City Stoners (MCS) near Western, Pico to Washington

Unread post by alexalonso » August 21st, 2012, 9:39 pm

There was a Mid city varrio from Western (w) to Normandie (e) between Pico (n) and Washington (s) for years. They once beefed with the Rollin 20s Bloods but I think it is clear to say that MCS is dead in this area. I notice Hell Bound in this area with some Play Boys graffiti, but MCS had been gone from here for at least a year.

Does anyone concur?

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Re: Mid City Stoners (MCS) near Western

Unread post by xxx » September 2nd, 2012, 6:11 pm

This area originally belonged to C14. MCS came along decades later. Even clicked with C14 to become MC14. But yeah aot of gangs in LA are fading away.

Youngsters aren't gravitating to gangs Like before.

A lot of older gang members are pushing their kids in the right direction breaking the generational chain of events. Plus economic and educational opportunities are wide open for Blacks and Latino kids. Racism is nit a major factor like before.

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Unread post by alexalonso » September 2nd, 2012, 7:41 pm

Yeah, Clanton has all this area during the 1970s, 1980s and some of the 1990s. I was not aware that they clicked up with MCS. CLanton actually went all the way west to Wilton.

I think that MCS is gone for good from this area.

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Unread post by xxx » September 3rd, 2012, 11:17 am

If you take a look at that area North of the Freeway, that Rampart/ Mid City/ Pico Union Areas, the gang scene is pretty dead.

The Feds smashed the area with Rico Act, local gang injunctions, and decades of battle fatigue. A lot of areas just ran their course, ran out of steam from years of back and forth wars. Gang Wars cant sustain forever, especially now with all the options to do other things with your life.

I thing where seeing the waning down of the LA gang scene. I see it going back to the fringes becoming less attractive and popular to the youth. The Mainstreaming of the LA GANG LIFE STYLE made it a trend and like any trend it plays out.

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Unread post by alexalonso » September 5th, 2012, 8:29 am

xxx wrote:If you take a look at that area North of the Freeway, that Rampart/ Mid City/ Pico Union Areas, the gang scene is pretty dead.

The Feds smashed the area with Rico Act, local gang injunctions, and decades of battle fatigue. A lot of areas just ran their course, ran out of steam from years of back and forth wars. Gang Wars cant sustain forever, especially now with all the options to do other things with your life.

I thing where seeing the waning down of the LA gang scene. I see it going back to the fringes becoming less attractive and popular to the youth. The Mainstreaming of the LA GANG LIFE STYLE made it a trend and like any trend it plays out.
Crime stats certainly indicate that. Gang crime is way down the last few years including homicides. I wouldn't give RICO and gang injunctions all the credit though. Because MCS never had an injunction and never had a RICO and that place is literally dead. Something else is driving this fro sure.

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Unread post by xxx » September 5th, 2012, 11:47 am

Law enforcement, harsher laws, battle fatigue, And the crystal meth epidemic in the SUR gangs.

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Unread post by TheAngels » December 15th, 2012, 9:02 pm

xxx wrote:If you take a look at that area North of the Freeway, that Rampart/ Mid City/ Pico Union Areas, the gang scene is pretty dead.

The Feds smashed the area with Rico Act, local gang injunctions, and decades of battle fatigue. A lot of areas just ran their course, ran out of steam from years of back and forth wars. Gang Wars cant sustain forever, especially now with all the options to do other things with your life.

I thing where seeing the waning down of the LA gang scene. I see it going back to the fringes becoming less attractive and popular to the youth. The Mainstreaming of the LA GANG LIFE STYLE made it a trend and like any trend it plays out.

I've been thinking the same thing. That the whole LA gang scene is dying down. Especially in the last 10 years, but the demise seems to have been accelerating in the last 4 or 5 years. While I like to discuss gang culture, and find it interesting, and even will romanticize about it -- I'm all for the gang scene dying down. Even though "gangs" have been apart of LA culture for several decades, and "violent gangs" have been around since the beginning of the crack era (late 70s), hitting its peak in the early 90s -- I still would not miss it if it completely left LA. But it exists, so we discuss it & dissect it.

I grew up in Mid City in the 90s, and whenever I visit my old hood, it doesn't seem to have the same gang element that it once used to have. Gangs STILL exist of course, but it doesn't seem as entrenched or violent. And it doesn't seem like every black & Latino kid thinks being in a gang is "cool" or something to look up to.

I also see a lot of blacks & Latinos nowadays skateboarding and wearing skinny jeans. You didn't see that in the 90s or the early 2000s. While it may sound funny, skateboarding gives them another outlet. I mean, lets face it - gang members just don't skateboard. It doesn't coincide with the culture. Maybe some skaters might claim a set, but they aren't the hardcore active bangers.

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Unread post by alexalonso » December 16th, 2012, 6:48 pm

I seen alot of PBS placas in Mid City area lately

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Unread post by HappLoccc » July 4th, 2014, 10:25 pm

At John Burroughs Jr High in West LA Area, I use to sometimes hang out with Omar from MCS, this is when I first moved from Cleveland, Ohio to Cali, before I was a By yo s3lf or started out with the claiming PBGC before that. I was living one Burton and Willamin near the Beverly Center in SXR Turf and Termite, Sniper and Payaso was going to put me on SXR , starting hanging out on Corning, then next thing I am tagging up PBG in the Beverly Center on the RTD, the a couples later got put on By yo self. Omar was mad cool with me, Latino dude. He was cool until I owed him some money I borrowed and did not pay him for a month in a half then he started to wanted to fight, I was able to pay him and we was cool again hanging out at lunch break or cutting it up in class.

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Unread post by TheAngels » July 30th, 2014, 11:30 pm

HappLoccc wrote:At John Burroughs Jr High in West LA Area, I use to sometimes hang out with Omar from MCS, this is when I first moved from Cleveland, Ohio to Cali, before I was a By yo s3lf or started out with the claiming PBGC before that. I was living one Burton and Willamin near the Beverly Center in SXR Turf and Termite, Sniper and Payaso was going to put me on SXR , starting hanging out on Corning, then next thing I am tagging up PBG in the Beverly Center on the RTD, the a couples later got put on By yo self. Omar was mad cool with me, Latino dude. He was cool until I owed him some money I borrowed and did not pay him for a month in a half then he started to wanted to fight, I was able to pay him and we was cool again hanging out at lunch break or cutting it up in class.
Wasn't SXR like a wannabe skinhead gang of mostly White dudes? I heard they were more like a tagging hit-up crew but did it in cholo gang letters as opposed to NY wildstyle hitups.

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Re: Mid City Stoners (MCS) near Western

Unread post by alexalonso » September 11th, 2014, 8:41 pm

MCS may be making a resurgence in this area, but I still see alot of Play Boys (PBS) and Hell Bound (HB) graffiti in their turf.

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Unread post by Coup » September 12th, 2014, 11:50 am

Don't these dudes have two hoods? One on the Western side and one over by the SYC's....near/around Queen Anne Park? The ones on the Western side I know took a lot of heat from the 20's during their dust up years ago. And didn't they run most..not all of the 18's Rimpau's away from the n/s of SYC hood?

These dudes were always around Pico west of Crenshaw....just stayed to themselves.

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Unread post by HappLoccc » September 13th, 2014, 5:16 pm

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HappLoccc wrote:At John Burroughs Jr High in West LA Area, I use to sometimes hang out with Omar from MCS, this is when I first moved from Cleveland, Ohio to Cali, before I was a By yo s3lf or started out with the claiming PBGC before that. I was living one Burton and Willamin near the Beverly Center in SXR Turf and Termite, Sniper and Payaso was going to put me on SXR , starting hanging out on Corning, then next thing I am tagging up PBG in the Beverly Center on the RTD, the a couples later got put on By yo self. Omar was mad cool with me, Latino dude. He was cool until I owed him some money I borrowed and did not pay him for a month in a half then he started to wanted to fight, I was able to pay him and we was cool again hanging out at lunch break or cutting it up in class.
Wasn't SXR like a wannabe skinhead gang of mostly White dudes? I heard they were more like a tagging hit-up crew but did it in cholo gang letters as opposed to NY wildstyle hitups.
They was basically a white cholo gang or mixed gang, mostly made up of whites, had some latino's, blacks.
They were more closer to 18st than skinheads if you was talking about style wise, the gang was a cholo type gang and the style of clothing was like cholo's. My friend Termite a white guy dressed choloed up and would sport hair net and locs and sport a 8ball cane. There was black guy name Sniper, latino or half latino name Doper, a Latino name Payaso, but mostly Caucasians with other races in the set. They was cool to hang out with and party with, I use spend the night at Termite's house sometimes it was funny he would have SXR tagged up all in his room, and His Dad was Attorney they live a block or two away from the Beverly Center and His Dad took Termite, Sniper and I to Breakfast at Godfrey's the next morning.

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HappLoccc wrote:At John Burroughs Jr High in West LA Area, I use to sometimes hang out with Omar from MCS, this is when I first moved from Cleveland, Ohio to Cali, before I was a By yo s3lf or started out with the claiming PBGC before that. I was living one Burton and Willamin near the Beverly Center in SXR Turf and Termite, Sniper and Payaso was going to put me on SXR , starting hanging out on Corning, then next thing I am tagging up PBG in the Beverly Center on the RTD, the a couples later got put on By yo self. Omar was mad cool with me, Latino dude. He was cool until I owed him some money I borrowed and did not pay him for a month in a half then he started to wanted to fight, I was able to pay him and we was cool again hanging out at lunch break or cutting it up in class.
Wasn't SXR like a wannabe skinhead gang of mostly White dudes? I heard they were more like a tagging hit-up crew but did it in cholo gang letters as opposed to NY wildstyle hitups.
They was basically a white cholo gang or mixed gang, mostly made up of whites, had some latino's, blacks.
They were more closer to 18st than skinheads if you was talking about style wise, the gang was a cholo type gang and the style of clothing was like cholo's. My friend Termite a white guy dressed choloed up and would sport hair net and locs and sport a 8ball cane. There was black guy name Sniper, latino or half latino name Doper, a Latino name Payaso, but mostly Caucasians with other races in the set. They was cool to hang out with and party with, I use spend the night at Termite's house sometimes it was funny he would have SXR tagged up all in his room, and His Dad was Attorney they live a block or two away from the Beverly Center and His Dad took Termite, Sniper and I to Breakfast at Godfrey's the next morning.

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Unread post by TheAngels » September 16th, 2014, 11:51 pm

Coup wrote:Don't these dudes have two hoods? One on the Western side and one over by the SYC's....near/around Queen Anne Park? The ones on the Western side I know took a lot of heat from the 20's during their dust up years ago. And didn't they run most..not all of the 18's Rimpau's away from the n/s of SYC hood?

These dudes were always around Pico west of Crenshaw....just stayed to themselves.
I grew up in Mid City in the 90s -- and yes they were near Queen Anne and near SYC hood. I don't know where the "center" of their hood was but I'd see a lot of their graffiti around Pico & West Boulevard (near Queen Anne), and along Pico stretching from probably La Brea all the way to Crenshaw. I'd see their graffiti further south along West Boulevard roughly in SYC hood just south of Venice Boulevard.

I never knew of the Western one. I'm guessing the set near Queen Anne was the original MCS since that area is actually called Mid City on the map, while Western doesn't run through Mid City.

I didn't know about MCS running 18th Street Rimpau out. Did they? Then again I haven't lived in that area since 2000. I do know MCS had beef with 18th Street. SYC was cool with both MCS and 18th Street. I mean I don't know who was deeper in that area, MCS or 18th Street Rimpau... Oh wait, unless you're talking about the 20s running 18th Street out? I find that hard to believe because 18th Rimpau and SYC shared the same hood, and they basically both went at the 20s.

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Unread post by fabz » May 11th, 2015, 12:03 am

i went to John Buroughs jr high in 1985 i remember back then there were Mid City Stoners most were salvadorenos and they were Heavy Metalers rockers aka Stoners no rap no cholos but Stoners vans off the wall shoes black concert T-shirts and Heavy fucking Metal. Somebody explain to me when Mid City Stoners became cholos? I am 44yrs old and left Los Angeles for Miami. I am Colombian decent I was also a Heavy Metaler back then a rocker aka Stoner! Not all Stoners were in gangs . There was even alot of Stoners in east L.A. back then Ficket st Stoners somebody fill in this time gap! peace!

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fabz wrote:i went to John Buroughs jr high in 1985 i remember back then there were Mid City Stoners most were salvadorenos and they were Heavy Metalers rockers aka Stoners no rap no cholos but Stoners vans off the wall shoes black concert T-shirts and Heavy fucking Metal. Somebody explain to me when Mid City Stoners became cholos? I am 44yrs old and left Los Angeles for Miami. I am Colombian decent I was also a Heavy Metaler back then a rocker aka Stoner! Not all Stoners were in gangs . There was even alot of Stoners in east L.A. back then Ficket st Stoners somebody fill in this time gap! peace!
I remember that period. The Mid City Stoners that went to JB, had a small turf between Wilshire and 3rd Street from Wilton to Western. They all wore heavy metal shirts, ripped sleeves of their shirts, vans, belts with metal on them, long hair, but they had a gang aura to them even though they were stoners.

Where did you live in 1985?

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Unread post by HappLoccc » July 5th, 2018, 12:11 am

Burton Way & Willamin about two blocks from the Beverly Center, when I met you Alonzo, News and Tyrone from New York, I went tagging with you all it was around mid 1986 when Ijust moved to 3rd street and Westmoreland near Vermont, I was coming from the Beverly Center or was it Olympic and Fairfax, we went tagging on the RTD down to RTD Station, I sucked as a Tagger, you all that night was clowning jokingly my tagger name Capt. L (Lol)
That was a fun night.

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Unread post by Chicanoism » August 8th, 2019, 11:11 pm

They started in the late 70’s near Kingsley and Pico. They were Mid City Lil Criminals.
They kicked it with C14 and together would hit up MC14.

In the 80’s they became MCS and started kicking it at Queen Anne’s Park and started up Crenshaw Boys clika.

Then in the 90’s they started Hobart Boys off Venice and Hobart.

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