The majority of hate crime are commited against Whites

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Unread post by shady91744 » January 11th, 2004, 10:48 am

They hang people all over the world for stupid reasons. America was on that list too. How come you guys dont speak on all the killing that is going on in africa? Sudan, Arabs are systematically killing raping and forcing black people to leave their land. And Rwanda....man thats the sickest shit EVER. hundreds of thousands of people were hacked to death with machetes in about 2 weeks!!! this shit sickens me worse then any other mass crime on earth. It is so outrageous and the fact that it happened in 1994 is incredible. Theres so many people that have been convicted there in Rwanda of committing multiple murders during that time that their starting to let them free after serving just like 10 years....and these MF'ers hacked little kids, infants, toddlers, old women old men. You should see those pictures if you want to get graphic. When i look at those old pictures of hanged men it just pales in comparison to what went on in Rwanda. I dont see how no blacks in america EVER EVER spoke on this...Im not defending Whites for anything but you wanna speak on evil then read up on Rwanda.

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The majority of hate crime are commited against Whites

Unread post by shadoworder » February 22nd, 2006, 11:00 am

WASHINGTON – The most likely victim of a hate crime in the U.S. is a poor, young, white, single urban dweller, according to an analysis of Justice Department statistics collected from between July 2000 and December 2003.

A November report by the Bureau of Justice Statistics detailing a study of 210,000 "hate crimes" a year during that period has gone virtually unreported by the U.S. press.

But it does contain some surprising numbers. While race is, by far, the No. 1 factor cited as the reason for hate crimes, blacks are slightly less likely to be victims and far more likely to be perpetrators, the statistics show.........


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/artic ... E_ID=48898

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Unread post by Anonymous20 » February 22nd, 2006, 11:11 am

shadoworder wrote:WASHINGTON – The most likely victim of a hate crime in the U.S. is a poor, young, white, single urban dweller, according to an analysis of Justice Department statistics collected from between July 2000 and December 2003.

A November report by the Bureau of Justice Statistics detailing a study of 210,000 "hate crimes" a year during that period has gone virtually unreported by the U.S. press.

But it does contain some surprising numbers. While race is, by far, the No. 1 factor cited as the reason for hate crimes, blacks are slightly less likely to be victims and far more likely to be perpetrators, the statistics show.........


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/artic ... E_ID=48898

LOL Whatever, go back to Stormfront, don't embarass yourself with fals stats

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Re: The majority of hate crime are commited against Whites

Unread post by shadoworder » February 22nd, 2006, 11:37 am

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shadoworder wrote:WASHINGTON – The most likely victim of a hate crime in the U.S. is a poor, young, white, single urban dweller, according to an analysis of Justice Department statistics collected from between July 2000 and December 2003.

A November report by the Bureau of Justice Statistics detailing a study of 210,000 "hate crimes" a year during that period has gone virtually unreported by the U.S. press.

But it does contain some surprising numbers. While race is, by far, the No. 1 factor cited as the reason for hate crimes, blacks are slightly less likely to be victims and far more likely to be perpetrators, the statistics show.........


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/artic ... E_ID=48898

LOL Whatever, go back to Stormfront, don't embarass yourself with fals stats
The only person embarassing themselves here is you with your ignorant attitude,can you elaborate as to why they are "fals stats"??

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Unread post by none for you » February 23rd, 2006, 11:14 pm

shadoworder wrote:
anurwarizra wrote:
shadoworder wrote:WASHINGTON – The most likely victim of a hate crime in the U.S. is a poor, young, white, single urban dweller, according to an analysis of Justice Department statistics collected from between July 2000 and December 2003.

A November report by the Bureau of Justice Statistics detailing a study of 210,000 "hate crimes" a year during that period has gone virtually unreported by the U.S. press.

But it does contain some surprising numbers. While race is, by far, the No. 1 factor cited as the reason for hate crimes, blacks are slightly less likely to be victims and far more likely to be perpetrators, the statistics show.........


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/artic ... E_ID=48898

LOL Whatever, go back to Stormfront, don't embarass yourself with fals stats
The only person embarassing themselves here is you with your ignorant attitude,can you elaborate as to why they are "fals stats"??
because a black person says so?
or how about because nothing bad ever happens to whites.. whites are the priviledged few.. and whites have a special connection to the universe that makes them exempt from anything that a black could suffer ... NOT!
I am pretty much amuzed by how much power is granted me by the fears and assumptions of others.

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Unread post by se11 » February 24th, 2006, 12:42 am

people post bogus articles about people from africa being the first people in america and some people just put things together and make their own articles and get praised for it no matter how stupid it is because they like the idea that it might be true and give them some leverage over people they dont like. when someone posts an article they DONT like they just brush it off because they dont like it. i didnt even look at the article, but judging by the first post people are just going to ignore this and call it bogus but go on and praise people from africa and china being the first ones in america.

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Unread post by Anonymous20 » February 24th, 2006, 12:42 pm

se11 wrote:people post bogus articles about people from africa being the first people in america and some people just put things together and make their own articles and get praised for it no matter how stupid it is because they like the idea that it might be true and give them some leverage over people they dont like. when someone posts an article they DONT like they just brush it off because they dont like it. i didnt even look at the article, but judging by the first post people are just going to ignore this and call it bogus but go on and praise people from africa and china being the first ones in america.
Nobody said anything about that shit you just said above, YOu seem to be the one with a chip on your shoulder, bringing up shit nobody even mentioned, and the Whites victims of hate crimes thing, who's commiting them?, why has there been no public outcry?, White people are famous for taking the gloves off when their own are on the recieving end of ANY reprisals, that is why i doubt you, "Stats" Stormfront presents stats all the time, some of these say Hispanics a prone to being RAPISTS, does this make it True?, No! So you can say ANYTHING, and back it up with some stat given by a Biased person or online group, that is why i don't buy that because you don't hear about it, and believew me if white folks was gettin rolled on like you claim they are ALL MINORITIES would be paying the price for that!

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Unread post by Anonymous20 » February 24th, 2006, 12:50 pm

Summary of Hate Crime Statistics, 2003
Number of
incidents Number of
offenses Number of
victims Number of
known
offenders
Race 3,844 4,574 4,754 3,866
Anti-white 830 969 1,006 1,019
Anti-black 2,548 3,032 3,150 2,456
Anti-American Indian/Alaskan native 76 83 85 80
Anti-Asian/Pacific Islander 231 277 289 196
Anti-multi-racial group 159 213 224 135
Ethnicity/national origin 1,026 1,236 1,326 1,119
Anti-Hispanic 426 529 595 577
Anti-other ethnicity/national origin 600 707 731 542
Religion 1,343 1,426 1,489 574
Anti-Jewish 927 987 1,025 332
Anti-Catholic 76 78 80 32
Anti-Protestant 49 50 54 20
Anti-Islamic 149 155 171 94
Anti-other religious group 109 118 120 69
Anti-multi-religious group 24 25 26 17
Anti-atheism/agnosticism/etc. 9 13 13 10
Sexual orientation 1,239 1,430 1,479 1,313
Anti-male homosexual 783 881 910 863
Anti-female homosexual 187 220 230 167
Anti-homosexual 247 305 314 257
Anti-heterosexual 14 15 15 10
Anti-bisexual 8 9 10 16
Disability 33 40 43 35
Anti-physical 24 30 32 24
Anti-mental 9 10 11 11
Multiple-bias incidents1 4 9 9 7
Total 7,489 8,715 9,100 6,934

1. A multiple-bias incident is a hate crime in which two or more offense types were committed as a result of two or more bias motivations.
Source: Crime in the United States, 2003, FBI, Uniform Crime Reports.


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Unread post by Anonymous20 » February 24th, 2006, 1:01 pm

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9,100 were victims of hate crimes
Antagonism toward a particular race, religion, sexual orientation, ethnicity/national origin, or physical or mental disability prompted hate crimes against 9,100 victims during 2003, according to hate crime statistics recently released by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). Hate Crime Statistics, 2003, published by the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program, includes data from hate crime reports submitted by local, state, tribal, and federal law enforcement agencies throughout the Nation. The report documents 7,489 bias-motivated incidents, which include 8,715 separate offenses.
Incidents
A review of the data by incident showed that all but 4 of the incidents were classified as single-bias (involving only one bias motivation). A breakdown of the single-bias incidents by the type of bias revealed that 51.4 percent were motivated by racial bigotry, 17.9 percent were caused by religious intolerance, 16.6 percent were the result of a sexual-orientation bias, and 13.7 percent were triggered by an ethnicity/national origin bias.

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The remainder involved a bias against a disability.
Offenses and Victims
The offenses of murder, forcible rape, aggravated assault, simple assault, and intimidation are considered by the UCR Program to be crimes against persons. Within this category, intimidation was the most often reported hate crime, comprising 49.7 percent of the total crimes against persons in 2003. Simple assault accounted for 32.8 percent of the total, and aggravated assault comprised 16.7 percent. Murder and forcible rape accounted for 0.3 percent and 0.1 percent, respectively, of crimes against persons, and the offense category other made up the remaining 0.5 percent.

Among the 14 bias-motivated murders reported by law enforcement, 6 homicides were committed as a result of a sexual-orientation bias, 5 were the result of racial prejudice, and 2 were committed because of a bias against an ethnicity/national origin. One murder was the result of a hostility toward a disability.

The UCR Program categorizes as crimes against property the offenses of robbery, burglary, larceny-theft, motor vehicle theft, arson, and damage/destruction/vandalism. The latter was the most frequently reported hate crime offense against property, accounting for 83.4 percent of the total. Of the 2,618 acts of destruction, damage, or vandalism driven by bias, 47.6 percent were directed at individuals, 10.5 percent were aimed at business or financial institutions, 8.1 percent were leveled at governmental entities, and another 8.1 percent were directed at religious organizations. Unknown, multiple, or other victim types accounted for the remainder.

Location
The UCR Program analyzed the data by type of location anOffenders
In addition to gathering hate crime data about incidents, victims, and offenses, the UCR Program collects data about known offenders. In the context of hate crime data collection, the term known offender does not imply that the identity of the perpetrator is known but only that a distinguishing attribute has been identified. With regard to the attribute of race, among the 6,934 reported offenders, 62.3 percent were white, and 18.5 percent were black. The race was unknown for 10.7 percent of offenders, and the remainder were of other races or were members of a group composed of offenders of varying races.
d found that the majority of hate crime incidents (32.0 percent) took place in or on residential properties. Highways, roads, alleys, or streets were the settings for 17.6 percent of the reported incidents, and 11.8 percent took place at schools and colleges. The remaining incidents were distributed among various locations.

The information contained in the current report was submitted to the FBI by 11,909 law enforcement agencies. Although the data collected are not sufficient to serve as a valid national or regional measure of the extent of hate crime occurrences, they offer perspectives on the general nature of the hate crime phenomenon in the United States.

ADL Praises Hate Crime Report
The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) praised the FBI's hate crime report and called on police departments to expand their participation in the annual data collection effort.

"This essential FBI annual report has helped us understand the nature and the magnitude of our nation's hate violence problem," said Barbara B. Balser, ADL National Chair and Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director in a press release. "We are absolutely committed to improving compliance by police departments that are not yet reporting hate crime data to the FBI. American communities have learned the hard way that failure to address bias crimes can cause an isolated incident to fester and result in widespread tension."


What you need to be doing instead of point fingers, is to be asking for equal coverage on these things, nobody is saying black folks and browns don't do hate crimes(we're all human), but to say white are the more likely victims?, that is questionable, when you got people like James Byrd being drug my trucks down country roads!

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Unread post by Anonymous20 » February 24th, 2006, 1:09 pm

Here is an example of your Black on White crimes, but check the Bias in the article, Not denying it, but it proves when people find something, they take it and run with it.You could kill 11 white people a day for the next 10 years, and it still would not add up to the blacks and others of color killed post Civil War in this country, Cry me a River!

Imagine your kids playing basketball on a court at a playground. Suddenly, another group of kids appears and demands that your children leave. Since your kids are not done with there game -- and were there first, -- they refuse. Now they haven't done anything unreasonable, have they?

The new arrivals leave in a huff -- and come back with about 30 kids, shouting racial slurs and engage in a physical assault upon your children. Certainly there is a crime -- and given the language used during the assault, it must be a hate crime, right?

Wrong -- not if the children who are brutally beaten are white and the little thugs are black.


Invoking the name “Martin Luther King” and screaming “Black Power!” a gang of up to 30 black teens attacked four white girls in Marine Park in what police are saying is not a bias crime.

The March 30 attack was a hot topic at state Senator Marty Golden’s recent public safety forum.

According to witnesses and parents of the victims, four young girls from St. Edmund’s had the day off from school due to Easter recess. They were playing basketball during dismissal from nearby Marine Park Junior High School, when several Marine Park students demanded to use the court.

After adults intervened and asked them to wait their turn, the teens left - but returned in a pack of up to 30, both boys and girls, and stormed into the park.

Witnesses say the attackers were all black and called their victims “white crackers” during the bloody melee, which raged for almost 20 minutes.

“This is not being looked at as a bias crime,” NYPD Deputy Inspector Kevin McGinn said at the meeting.


Well why the hell not, Deputy Inspector McGinn? You have an unprovoked act of violence, prima facie evidence of racial animus, possible evidence of religious bias, and a violent attack by a mob on four little girls. What more do you need? Isn't an assault serious enough to cause the hospitalization of two victims by a mob shouting racial epithets sufficient to file such charges? Would their being beaten to death have been sufficient?

I mean, let's consider what happened in this vicious attack by a group of feral children (who have much more in common with a pack of wild dogs than the great civil rights leader whose name they invoked) attempting to maim or kill four little white girls who thought they had the right to play basketball on a public court in a public park.


“When I pulled my car up to the park, I witnessed a pandemonium I’ve never seen in my life,” said Debbie, a mother of one victim who asked to remain anonymous for safety reasons.

Her daughter ran to the car, screaming, “They’re going to kill us,” Debbie recalled. My daughter was so scared and kids were running around like crazy.

Pursued by dozens of teens, some of the girls were “literally running into traffic to save their lives,” she said.

One girl made it as far as a nearby house, but was dragged by her hair back into the playground by a “wolf pack of children,” Debbie said.

The St. Edmund girls were bleeding and beaten to the point where they had cuts, scrapes, footprints and dirt all over them - and the attackers surrounded her car and started pounding on the windows as Debbie tried to herd the terrified children into her vehicle.


It seems to me that the reason the police and the won't call this a bias crime is that the victims don't have a high enough melanin content to be subject to equal protection of the laws. You and I both know that we would be seeing a hate-crime prosecution if this were an attack by 30 white kids on a couple of little black girls. We'd have Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and the New Black Panther Party out in the street crying "No Justice -- No Peace!" We would probably still be reading about riots if you failed to file hate-crime charges if the victims were black and the perps were white.

Al Sharpton got a state investigation into the fake assault on Tawana Brawley. The LA riots provoked a federal prosecution of the cops who beat Rodney King. Where are the state and federal investigations and prosecutions here, of a hate crime perpetrated against white children -- and the failure of the legal system in New York City to treat this crime with the seriousness it deserves.

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Unread post by se11 » February 24th, 2006, 1:18 pm

anurwarizra wrote:
se11 wrote:people post bogus articles about people from africa being the first people in america and some people just put things together and make their own articles and get praised for it no matter how stupid it is because they like the idea that it might be true and give them some leverage over people they dont like. when someone posts an article they DONT like they just brush it off because they dont like it. i didnt even look at the article, but judging by the first post people are just going to ignore this and call it bogus but go on and praise people from africa and china being the first ones in america.
Nobody said anything about that shit you just said above, YOu seem to be the one with a chip on your shoulder, bringing up shit nobody even mentioned, and the Whites victims of hate crimes thing, who's commiting them?, why has there been no public outcry?, White people are famous for taking the gloves off when their own are on the recieving end of ANY reprisals, that is why i doubt you, "Stats" Stormfront presents stats all the time, some of these say Hispanics a prone to being RAPISTS, does this make it True?, No! So you can say ANYTHING, and back it up with some stat given by a Biased person or online group, that is why i don't buy that because you don't hear about it, and believew me if white folks was gettin rolled on like you claim they are ALL MINORITIES would be paying the price for that!
you said "LOL Whatever, go back to Stormfront, don't embarass yourself with fals stats". i am just saying that people should at least read the article, rather then brush it off, weather it is true or false. i've seen people praise somebody for saying the frist people in america were from africa and for saying chinese and aborgornies have the same blood as africans or some ridiculous thing. i dont really care about the stats, i am just saying automatically accusing this guy of posting false info 11 minuets after he posts it, is a little biased twords the article in my opinion.

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Unread post by Anonymous20 » February 24th, 2006, 1:33 pm

I read the article, before i posted, i always do, as should anybody else

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Unread post by boston312 » February 24th, 2006, 2:55 pm

It has always been my experience in the Los Angeles Unified School district that the white students are often picked on by the Hispanic and Black students. Many view the white students as passive and vulnerable. I cant really speak about society (outside of the schools) but as far as the school system goes Id probaly say whites get picked on more by people from other races.

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Unread post by none for you » February 25th, 2006, 12:38 am

boston312 wrote:It has always been my experience in the Los Angeles Unified School district that the white students are often picked on by the Hispanic and Black students. Many view the white students as passive and vulnerable. I cant really speak about society (outside of the schools) but as far as the school system goes Id probaly say whites get picked on more by people from other races.

I can attest to that... when i was in the 6th/7th and 8th grades, I lived in SoCal neighborhood where the school was 15% white. I was terrorized daily by a few mexicans... and challenged to fight nearly weekly... which was really sucky because I didnt start out that way at all... I got jaded and hardened fast.

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Unread post by Anonymous20 » February 25th, 2006, 6:14 am

Question for 88: How Many white towns do you know of that have been wiped out by black folks?, how many white people do you know who've been tied to the back of trucks and drug? how many white dudes you know been hung from trees, and burned alive, just because they were white?, please let me know

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how many pics of white folks you ever seen like this, where blacks werte responsible?

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Unread post by se11 » February 25th, 2006, 1:05 pm

none because it never happens to white people ever.

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Unread post by blackmanofhonor » February 25th, 2006, 5:25 pm

Disgusting.Fuck amerikkka.

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Unread post by blackmanofhonor » February 25th, 2006, 5:26 pm

Did you all know that post cards were made with those photos on them,and it was acceptable to send them through the mail?

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Unread post by Anonymous20 » February 25th, 2006, 6:18 pm

Oh yeah i know if i find'em i'm gonna post them. People think black folks are whiners, and that WE commit these crimes most of the time, Yeah Right.

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Unread post by perongregory » February 25th, 2006, 6:22 pm

Wait, but I thought black people were only messed with during slavery. Thats why they're so bitter rihgt? Just becasue of the little mistake of slavery. Whiny negroes. Hell at least we just burned there towns down instead of blowing them up with atomic bombs like we did the japanese. They should be greatful.

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Unread post by Anonymous20 » February 25th, 2006, 6:25 pm

Lige Daniels hangs from the tree in Center, Texas. His neck is bent backwards so that his head makes a grotesque right angle with his body. His corpse wears a white shirt and rumpled jeans. His feet are bare.
Below Daniels stand members of the mob that lynched him. Many stare straight into the camera. One, a boy who can't be more than 11 or 12 years old, has his head cocked slightly to his left. He wears a shirt with his sleeves rolled up to his elbows. A wide tie drapes his neck, its design almost clownish in appearance.

The boy is smiling.

The photo was taken in 1920. That was some 55 years after slavery was supposedly outlawed in the United States. (It wasn't. The 13th amendment didn't ban slavery so much as it clarified the conditions under which it could exist). The grisly picture of Daniels' death by mob violence came in an era when the ancestors of many Americans already were in this country, enjoying the benefits and privileges of living in a free land.

There's one more thing about that Daniels photo: It was made into a postcard.

Many lynching photos ended up being depicted on postcards. Virgil Jones, Robert Jones, Thomas Jones and Joseph Riley - lynched in Russville, Ky., on July 31, 1908, ended up on one. So did Jesse Washington, murdered by mob in Robinson, Texas, on May 16, 1916.

One such "postcard lynching" had a profound impact on American race relations. Albert Hamilton was all of 18 years old when he drove a horse-drawn carriage for a living in 1912 Cordele, Ga. Accused of assaulting a white woman, Hamilton was carted off to jail. A mob dragged him from his cell, beat him severely, hanged him from a nearby tree and shot him more than 300 times.

Hamilton's best friend, a 15-year-old boy named Elijah Poole, watched the killing in horror. Later, Poole moved to Detroit and started a religious sect known as the Nation of Islam. When Poole changed his last name to Muhammad and preached that whites were devils, he was accused of teaching hate. Nobody bothered to ask who taught Elijah Muhammad to hate. But that mob in Cordele must have been one of his instructors, as were the postcards made after Hamilton's death.

They say much, those postcards, and have much to teach us. We can have no serious discussion about race relations in America without discussing those postcards. What did white Americans tell black Americans by not only lynching them, but by making postcards of the despicable acts? That the hatred of black Americans was not only psychotic but went light years across the line to something beyond madness? What do the postcards reveal about a society that would condone them?

In today's debate on race, many whites proudly boast that their ancestors owned no slaves and hence they shouldn't be burdened with affirmative action. But since they brought up their ancestors, perhaps they should tell us exactly what other things their ancestors did or did not do.

1. Did they ever attend a school that didn't accept blacks?

2. Did they ever work for a company or business that refused to hire blacks?

3. Did they join a labor union that excluded blacks?

4. Did they ever patronize a restaurant, theater or movie house that practiced Jim Crow (legal segregation)?

5. Did they ever realize that despite the fact that they arrived here after slavery ended, they benefited from many white-skin privileges at the expense of blacks? Did they ever protest those privileges and work to end them? Did they ever protest a lynching - or one of those postcards?

6. Finally, did they ever stand in a crowd while someone black was hanged from a tree?

Those questions aren't asked to imply that many whites are guilty. Some, indeed many, did protest. Many Jews did so in numbers way out of their percentage in the population. When Harry Moore, a NAACP leader in Florida, and his wife were killed in a bombing in 1951, many whites sent harsh, sarcastic letters to the governor of that state asking him about his commitment to justice.

No doubt some whites will insist that blacks stop bringing up the past and "just get over" the lynchings and those postcards. Why? Some whites have clearly not "gotten over" the verdict in the O.J. Simpson criminal trial. In fact, they've reacted as if Simpson's acquittal were the greatest injustice of the 20th century. It doesn't even make the top 50. Some lynchings were so gruesome they make the murders of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman look like mercy killings. Read, if you can stomach it, what happened to Claude Neal in Florida in 1934 (in a biography of Harry Moore, entitled "Before His Time'). The details are so ugly and shocking, editors of this paper wouldn't let me begin to describe it. Neal's body also ended up on a postcard, selling for 50 cents a pop.

We should all ask ourselves about those postcards and their meaning. We might also ask ourselves if today's race relations aren't where we want them because those postcards reveal a hatred of blacks so deeply ingrained it will take centuries, not generations, to eradicate it.

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Unread post by perongregory » February 25th, 2006, 6:33 pm

Shit makes me sick. Evil, disgusting, devilish, shit. Doesn't matter if you come from an immigrant family either, what about the draft riots, etc.

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Unread post by blackmanofhonor » February 25th, 2006, 6:35 pm

anurwarizra wrote:Oh yeah i know if i find'em i'm gonna post them. People think black folks are whiners, and that WE commit these crimes most of the time, Yeah Right.

The most JUST thing ever would be for whites to go through what they put others through.




To fill out application after appication and have employers not hire you,and then when you call them its ''we filled the positions''.Month after month.And then have the majority of ''your'' country telling you its your fault,the jobs are there,and youre just lazy and dont want to work.

Or to have a greedy majority CONSTANTLY discriminating against you,and when you bring it up,they pretend that youre just whinning and being irrational.

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Unread post by blackmanofhonor » February 25th, 2006, 6:43 pm

anurwarizra wrote:What do the postcards reveal about a society that would condone them?

................ those postcards reveal a hatred of blacks so deeply ingrained it will take centuries, not generations, to eradicate it.

This is the same society that today thinks its ok that 60% of black men are JOBLESS,10% are locked up,and the vast majority of the rest arent making enough to pay thier bills,let alone lift them out of poverty.

Tell this to whites and they will say its our fault,we just want to not work,live in poverty,and have to worry about loosing our freedom to make a few bucks.Yep.Its our fault,we like being treated like worthless pieces of shit.

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Unread post by blackmanofhonor » February 25th, 2006, 6:50 pm

Disgusting,evil shit.America is sick.

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Unread post by Anonymous20 » February 25th, 2006, 7:06 pm

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NEVER FORGET, History has a nack of repeating itself. Shades of James Byrd?, i think so. I think the Hate crime arguement is pretty much killed off, but the next one , raised by 88, is the,"all black men crave white women" theory she has convinced herself of, LOL, we'll see about that too.

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Unread post by Anonymous20 » February 25th, 2006, 9:01 pm

Here more stats for you here, Dispute this if you can
Many forum members contend that the vast majority of black
people hate white people, and specifically target white
people to slaughter them.

U.S. Department of Justice, Office of Justice Programs,
Homocide Trends in the U.S. website
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm
http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/pressrel01/cius2000.htm

- in 2000, of the 5121 homicides committed by black
offenders, 16% of the victims were white, while 84%
were black.

From 1976 to 1999 --
- 86% of white victims were killed by whites

- Blacks were 6 times more likely than whites to be
murdered in 1999

- black-on-black murders accounted for 41.8 % of total
murders in 1999, while black-on-white crime accounted for
8%. In fact,in 2000, 88 % of murders involved victim and
offender of the same race.

- black-on-white homocides decreased every year from 1993 to
1999.

Also WN's insist that black men just love to rape white
women. However, your "Color of Crime" website shows that, in
1994, 10.1 percent of white victims of rape reported that
the percieved race of their offender was black

http://www.amren.com/color.pdf
Also, this website indicate that 10.1 percent of black
victims of rape reported that the percieved race of their
offender was white.

White Nationalists contend that since the proportion of
minorities in the U.S. is increasing, then crime is also
increasing at an alarming rate. However, this website
reveals that:

- Violent crime rates have declined since 1994, reaching
the lowest level ever recorded in 2002.

- Homicide rates recently declined to levels last seen in
1967.

- Rape rates generally declined since 1991 but remained
about the same between 2001 and 2002.

Intermarriage
White Nationalists claim that U.S. is becoming a cesspool of
intermarriage between the races. Everybody is marrying
outside of their race. The 2000 census provides facts to the
contrary.

http://www.census.gov/prod/2001pubs/p20-537.pdf
http://www.census.gov/population/cen...c-t1/tab02.txt
http://www.census.gov/prod/2001pubs/c2kbr01-5.pdf
http://www.census.gov/prod/2001pubs/c2kbr01-4.pdf


From this website, you can find that 97.4 % of married and
94.6 % of unmarried couples are of the same race. ONLY TWO
% of married couples were interracial.

DOING A LITTLE MATH(yes negroes can do math):
Of the marriages involving a black spouse, 91.1 % of these
marriages involved spouses who were both black, while 8.3 %
of these marriages involve one spouse who is black, and one
who is white.

Of marriages involving a white spouse, 98 % of these
marriages involved spouses who were both white, while 0.7 %
of these marriages involved one spouse who is black, and one
who is white. SO STOP TALKING ABOUT HOW SO MANY WHITE FOLKS
ARE SELL-OUTS WHO ARE INTERMARRYING WITH THE INFERIOR PEOPLES

There are more white/asian pacific islander married couples
(655,000), then there are black/white married couples
(363,000), SO Y'ALL NEED TO GET ON THE ASIANS' CASE FOR THE
RAMPANT INTERMARRIAGE GOING ON IN THE U.S.

- Also, 97.6 % of the U.S. total population indicated that
they are of one race.

- Also, there are more people who identified themselves as
White and Asian (868,395), than White and Black (784,764).
SO AGAIN, BLAME THE ASIANS FOR MISCEGENATION AS WELL!!!

- In 2000, there were 216,930,925 people that were
identified as "White alone or in combination with one or
more races." Of that number, 211,460,626 (or 98%) identified as themselves as white only.

- Also, 34.6 million of the 36.4 million people who
identified themselves as "Black alone or in combination with
one or more races", considered themselves as black only.
That is 96%. MISCENEGATION RUNNING RAMPANT??? WHAT?????

Married Couples: Unmarried Couples:
Both Black 3,989,000 480,000
Black/White 363,000 88,000


School Desegregation
White Nationalists often contend that schools are becoming
more and more integrated, with minorities steadily trickling
into white schools. However, the following websites
counters
that contention.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/EDUCATION/01...race.study/ind
ex.html

http://www.civilrightsproject.harvar...rch/reseg03/re
segregation03.php

The study found that "among minority groups, Hispanic
students attend the least-integrated schools; Asian
students, the most integrated. White students were the most
segregated overall, attending schools that, on average, were
80 percent white."

"in 1988, the average black student attended schools that
were 36.2 percent white, while in 2000 the typical black
student attended schools that were 30.9 percent white. The
percentage of black students in predominantly minority
schools rose from 62 % in 1988 to 69 % in 2000"

In 1988, the percentage of black students in majority-white
schools in the South peaked at more than 43 percent. By
2000, that figure had fallen to 31 percent -- lower than it
was in 1970, the study found.

"During the 1990s, the proportion of black students in
majority white schools has decreased by 13 percentage
points, to a level lower than any year since 1968."

As stated before, WHITES ARE THE MOST ISOLATED RACIAL GROUP,
attending schools that are on average 80% white, and 8.6%
black. In 2000, The average black student attends schools
that are 31% white, and 54% black.

- The percentage of white students in schools ATTENDED BY
THE AVERAGE LATINO HAS DECREASED EVERY YEAR SINCE 1970.

- 10.8 % of white students attend predominantly minority
schools, while 3/4 of blacks and latinos attend these
schools.

- the percentage of black students who attend predominantly
minority schools HAS INCREASED SINCE THE MID-80's.

- less than 1% of whites attend schools that are comprised
of 90-100 % minorities , yet almost 40% of black and latino
students attend these schools.

"The data show the emergence of a substantial group of
American schools that are virtually all non-white, which we
call apartheid schools. These schools educate one-sixth of
the nation's black students and one-fourth of black students
in the Northeast and Midwest. These are often schools where
enormous poverty, limited resources, and social and health
problems of many types are concentrated."

"More latinos than ever before are now attending intensely
segregated schools (90-100% minority)". The percentage of
Latinos in predominantly minority schools has increased by
20 percent since 1968.

"..study shows a very rapid increase in the number of
multiracial schools where at least one tenth of the students
are from three different racial groups. Three-fourths of
Asian students attend multiracial schools, but only 14% of
white students do." ALSO, blacks are twice as likely, and
latinos three times as likely, to attend a multi-racial
school that a white.

- in the Northeast,where 7 out of 10 students are white, the
average black student goes to a school that is only 25%
white.

"Many of the most rapidly resegregating school systems since
the mid-1980s are suburban."

MY THOUGHTS: Overall, blacks comprise 12% of the population,
whites 69%. If schools are becoming so integrated, then
blacks would attend schools that are more nearly 60% white,
not 31% white.

There are ony 11 states where white students have, on
average, at least 20% minority students in their classes
(Table 13).

WHITE FOLKS ARE MOST SEGREGATED THAN ANYBODY ELSE. READ!!!
SOURCE:
http://mumford1.dyndns.org/cen2000/W...eport/page1.ht
ml - An analysis of trends in residential segregation, 1980-
2000, compiled by a team of researchers at the Lewis Mumford
Center, University at Albany.

- This report states that the average white person lives in
a neighborhood that is 80.2 % white and 6.7% black.

- Blacks live in neighborhoods that average 54% black and
33.2% white. Latinos' neighborhoods are 45.5% Latino, 36.5%
white, and 11% black. Asians' neighborhoods are 17.9% Asian
and 58% white, with the rest split between blacks and
Latinos.

"The basic message here is that whites live in neighborhoods
with low minority representation while minorities live in
neighborhoods with high minority representation, and limited
white representation."

Y'ALL NEED TO READ THE FINDINGS IN THIS STUDY!!!

LET'S FACE IT: WHITES LIKE TO STICK TO THERE OWN. THEY WANT
THERE CHILDREN TO ATTEND ALL WHITE SCHOOLS. WHITE FOLKS
AIN'T CHANGED.


RACISM AGAINST MINORITIES STILL LIVES (a few examples follow)

Lending
http://www.communitychange.org/NRP/riskorrace.asp

Lower-income African-Americans receive 2.4 times as many
subprime loans as lower-income whites, while upper-income
African-Americans receive 3.0 times as many subprime loans
as do whites with comparable incomes.

Lower-income Hispanics receive 1.4 times as many subprime
loans as do lower-income whites, while upper-income
Hispanics receive 2.2 times as many of these loans.

At a level of 5.93, St. Louis has the nation’s highest
disparity ratio(see definition below) between upper-income
African-Americans and upper-income whites. It was one of
five metropolitan areas where this disparity ratio was
greater than 4.0. In another 18 cities, this ratio was
between 3.0 and 4.0. (Table 10, page 59).

Disparity ratio definition: A comparison of the percentage
of subprime refinance loans made to minority borrowers and
the percentage of subprime refinance loans made to white
borrowers in the same geographic market. A ratio of 1.0
indicates no disparity, a ratio above 1.0 indicates that
minorities are receiving a higher proportion of subprime
loans than whites.

Based on the figures for 2000, the disparity ratio for
African-Americans is 2.83, the disparity ratio for Hispanics
is 1.74, and the disparity ratio for Native-Americans is
1.60.

There were no metropolitan areas where the disparity ratio
for African-Americans fell below 1.64.

There are significant racial disparities in subprime
lending, and these disparities actually INCREASE AS INCOME
INCREASES.

17.42% of the conventional refinance loans made to white
borrowers in 2000 were subprime loans. The comparable
figures are 49.28% for African-Americans, 30.33% for
Hispanics, and 27.94% for Native Americans.


Middle-Income (From 100% to 120% of the Median Family Income)
percentage of loans that are subprime for each minority
group of borrowers: African-Americans 40.4 %, Hispanics
28.6%, Whites 16.8%

Upper-Income (Greater than 120% of the Median Family Income)
percentage of loans that are subprime for each minority
group of borrowers: African-Americans 31.9 %, Hispanics
23.5%, Whites 10.5%

WHITE TEACHER FLIGHT
http://www.cnn.com/2003/EDUCATION/01...ation.teachers
.ap/

http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0121/p01s03-usgn.htm

In Georgia, after the 1999-2000 school year, 31 percent of
white teachers quit their jobs at schools where the student
population was more than 70 percent black, and those who
changed jobs went to schools that served lower proportions
of black and poor pupils.

Other studies have found white teacher flight increasing --
in California, New York, Texas and North Carolina -- but
only the Georgia State study singled out how race factored
into the phenomenon.

READ THIS!!!!: "John Evans, president of the NAACP in DeKalb
County, says no one should be surprised to see young white
teachers leave for the suburbs after a year or two. Many
teachers, especially young women, are scared of black
neighborhoods and don't want to be there after dark, he
says."

Another SCHOOL RESEGREGATION ARTICLE:
http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/o...603/22seg.html

"While the city of Atlanta's population is 33 percent white,
only 7 percent of its public school students are white."

"Today, white students in Clayton County schools constitute
17 percent of the 48,000 students. Twenty years ago, whites
made up 66 percent of the student body...The percentages
reflect the county's racial shift from white to black.
Twenty years ago, Clayton County was 92 percent white; today
it's 37.9 percent white."


CRACK,BABY,CRACK:

From the U.S. Sentencing Commission:

52% of crack cocaine users are white, yet only 4.1% of those
sentenced federally for crack cocaine offenses are white. Blacks make
up 38% of crack users in the U.S., yet 88.3 % of those
sentenced were black.

Source: Race,Crime, and Punishment, by Delores D.Jones-Brown.

MORE ON CRACK:
http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread595.shtml
Over 80 percent of the 1.2 million annual drug arrests are of
African American males. Crack cocaine users, who tend to be
black, face sentences five times harsher than powder cocaine
users, who tend to be white.

In California, African American males account for one-third
of the state's prison population but just 3.7 percent of the
overall population.

WELFARE:
http://www.psu.edu/ur/2003/welfarequeens.html
"The truth is that welfare is overwhelmingly the domain of
women and children of all races, with adult men making up but
4 percent of welfare recipients for the federal fiscal year
1995, according to the chapter According to the U.S.
Department of Health and Human Services, more than two-thirds
(69 percent) of the welfare recipients in 1994-95 were in
fact children, a situation that has little changed. The
notion that “welfare queens” breed swarms of children to
support their lifestyle is patently false, however. Sparks
cites Department of Health and Human Services figures showing
that the average welfare mother still only has two children."

This articles also states: Most births out of wedlock (69 percent) occurred among adult women, not teens, and "White teens were responsible for 70 percent of all teen births, she adds." Y'ALL NEED TO CHECK YOUR YOUNG FOLKS, TOO.

DO YOU WANT MORE STATISTICS????????

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Unread post by perongregory » February 25th, 2006, 9:10 pm

They don't want the truth. They still gonna lie and come back with the same bs. As long as we know, it's all good.

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Unread post by 'X' » February 25th, 2006, 9:11 pm

anurwarizra wrote: DO YOU WANT MORE STATISTICS????????

Mad respect brutha for what you posting. The "rebuttals" should be interesting. Keep doing what you doing.

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Unread post by se11 » February 25th, 2006, 11:02 pm

black-on-white crime accounted for 8%.
not where i live....

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