Proud To Be White (And it's long over-due.)

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Proud To Be White (And it's long over-due.)

Unread post by Christina Marie » October 4th, 2007, 3:16 pm

Ran across this...thought I would share it and get your feedback


Proud To Be White (And it's long over-due.)

Someone finally said it.

How many are actually paying attention to this?
There are African Americans,
Mexican Americans,
Asian Americans,
Arab Americans,
Native Americans, etc.
...And then there are just -
Americans.

You pass me on the street
and sneer in my direction.
You Call me "White boy,"
"Cracker," "Honkey,"
"Whitey," "Caveman,"
... And that's OK.

But when I call you the N word,
Kike, Towel head,
Sand-nigger, Camel Jockey,
Beaner, Gook, or Chink
... You call me a racist.

You say that whites commit a lot
of violence against you,
so why are the ghettos the most
dangerous places to live?

You have the United Negro College Fund.
You have Martin Luther King Day.
You have Black History Month.
You have Cesar Chavez Day.
You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi.
You Have Yom Hashoah.
You have the NAACP.
And you have BET.

If we had WET
(White Entertainment Television)
... We'd be racists.

If we had a White Pride Day
... You would call us racists.

If we had White History Month
... We'd be racists.

If we had any organization for only whites
to "advance" OUR lives
... We'd be racists.

We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce,
a Black Chamber of Commerce,
and then we just have the plain
Chamber of Commerce.
Wonder who pays for that?

If we had a college fund that only gave
white students scholarships
... You know we'd be racists.

There are over 60 openly-proclaimed
Black-only Colleges in the US ,
yet if there were "White-only Colleges"
... THAT would be a racist college.

In the Million Man March,
you believed that you were
marching for your race and rights.
If we marched for our race and rights,
... You would call us racists.

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Unread post by justice league » October 4th, 2007, 10:14 pm

I couldnt have said it better myself!

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Unread post by Cold Bear » October 5th, 2007, 7:44 am

I mean all things equal this would be a nice little piece of work... that is, if all things were equal

Just to give example the new stats are out that 2/3rds of crack smokers are white, yet 80% of arrests for crack are black. I mean if I was practically guaranteed an easier ride because of my race maybe I wouldn't be PROUD to be my race I would just be happy I wasn't one of the other ones! They did that study with white kids about racism; the kids denied that there was racism or that they were racist, but when asked how much money they would have to be given to be a minority in a fictional land, they said they would have to be given large sums of money.

There are countless numbers of whites out there that are perfectly happy and proud to be white. The thing is, they don't need to say it because they can see what it means to be white pretty easily. Statistics show even with diversity campaigns whites still prefer white schools and most of America goes to schools that is 80% or more white. Whites still are not convicted and sentenced with the ruthlessness of blacks and latinos. Put it simple, everyday is White Day - DUH. So the blacks and latinos have their single days of celebration and have their marches or whatever. LOL, every other day is a white interest holiday as far as they are the majority of this country. GTFOH All this white oppression business is pretty ungrounded in reality.

You have the United Negro College Fund.
You have Martin Luther King Day.
You have Black History Month.
You have Cesar Chavez Day.
You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi.
You Have Yom Hashoah.
You have the NAACP.
And you have BET.


Yeah and there are "St. Patrick's Day Parade" for Irish Americans, "San Genarro Festival" for Italian Americans, "Columbus Day", "July 4th" - White Americans celebrating freedom from the British, Fox News, the White House, Congress, Homeowner's Associations, Banks, Wall Street, the stock market, Blackwater, pretty much everything else besides the few things mentioned above!

If we had a college fund that only gave
white students scholarships
... You know we'd be racists.


No, you'd be racist if you were still supporting outright denial of access to higher education for minorities. That's what those scholarships are for in the first place.

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Unread post by KINGFEAR62 » October 5th, 2007, 8:06 am

White people have all the power in america what else do they want

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Unread post by $outhPhillypuppet » October 5th, 2007, 8:40 am

KINGFEAR62 wrote:White people have all the power in america what else do they want
If white people have all the power in America why don't us "minorities" try to change that.
Like going to college so we can get those high paying jobs.
Or doing more for our communities then "holding down the block"
We should also stop killing each other and going to jail for life just cuz somebody got dissed.

basically
If we stop doing dumb shit maybe we would have less obstacles to get pass in life.

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Re: Proud To Be White (And it's long over-due.)

Unread post by A Ghost » October 5th, 2007, 9:08 am

Christina Marie wrote:Ran across this...thought I would share it and get your feedback


Proud To Be White (And it's long over-due.)

Someone finally said it.

How many are actually paying attention to this?
There are African Americans,
Mexican Americans,
Asian Americans,
Arab Americans,
Native Americans, etc.
...And then there are just -
Americans.

You pass me on the street
and sneer in my direction.
You Call me "White boy,"
"Cracker," "Honkey,"
"Whitey," "Caveman,"
... And that's OK.

But when I call you the N word,
Kike, Towel head,
Sand-nigger, Camel Jockey,
Beaner, Gook, or Chink
... You call me a racist.

You say that whites commit a lot
of violence against you,
so why are the ghettos the most
dangerous places to live?

You have the United Negro College Fund.
You have Martin Luther King Day.
You have Black History Month.
You have Cesar Chavez Day.
You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi.
You Have Yom Hashoah.
You have the NAACP.
And you have BET.

If we had WET
(White Entertainment Television)
... We'd be racists.

If we had a White Pride Day
... You would call us racists.

If we had White History Month
... We'd be racists.

If we had any organization for only whites
to "advance" OUR lives
... We'd be racists.

We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce,
a Black Chamber of Commerce,
and then we just have the plain
Chamber of Commerce.
Wonder who pays for that?

If we had a college fund that only gave
white students scholarships
... You know we'd be racists.

There are over 60 openly-proclaimed
Black-only Colleges in the US ,
yet if there were "White-only Colleges"
... THAT would be a racist college.

In the Million Man March,
you believed that you were
marching for your race and rights.
If we marched for our race and rights,
... You would call us racists.
I hope you know you're spreading a white power E Mail right now.......


SMH @ this old ass list

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Re: Proud To Be White (And it's long over-due.)

Unread post by A Ghost » October 5th, 2007, 9:23 am

Christina Marie wrote:Ran across this...thought I would share it and get your feedback


Proud To Be White (And it's long over-due.)

Someone finally said it.

How many are actually paying attention to this?
There are African Americans,
Mexican Americans,
Asian Americans,
Arab Americans,
Native Americans, etc.
...And then there are just -
Americans.
Whites DO have names like that, except it's not "White-American". It's "Italian-American" etc...

Blacks are known as "African-American" because they don't know their ethnic heritage because of slavery.

How many blacks do you know that know specifically where in Africa they originate from?
Christina Marie wrote:Ran across this...thought I would share it and get your feedback


You pass me on the street
and sneer in my direction.
You Call me "White boy,"
"Cracker," "Honkey,"
"Whitey," "Caveman,"
... And that's OK.
Have you ever had anyone literally pass you on the street and call you those things?

And who is telling you it's ok?
Christina Marie wrote:Ran across this...thought I would share it and get your feedback
But when I call you the N word,
Kike, Towel head,
Sand-nigger, Camel Jockey,
Beaner, Gook, or Chink
... You call me a racist.
Because it IS racist.

Christina Marie wrote:Ran across this...thought I would share it and get your feedback
You say that whites commit a lot
of violence against you,
so why are the ghettos the most
dangerous places to live?
Because of an intense amount of poverty, lack of jobs and resources that are the result of white flight, free trade, segregation in the 60's and the mass importation of drugs into the communities where poor blacks are.
Christina Marie wrote:Ran across this...thought I would share it and get your feedback
You have the United Negro College Fund.
You have Martin Luther King Day.
You have Black History Month.
You have Cesar Chavez Day.
You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi.
You Have Yom Hashoah.
You have the NAACP.
And you have BET.
SMH @ "Martin Luther King Day" <- that was SOOOOO ignorant... Image

And as far as the others, those were created to balance out the unequal distribution of television coverage and opportunites that were always set in place for whites over blacks.
Christina Marie wrote:Ran across this...thought I would share it and get your feedback

If we had WET
(White Entertainment Television)
... We'd be racists.
You already do, but it's not called "WET" it's called Fox News and CMT....
Christina Marie wrote:Ran across this...thought I would share it and get your feedback
If we had any organization for only whites
to "advance" OUR lives
... We'd be racists.
The thing is that's what whites were doing before all the black organization came into existance.....
Christina Marie wrote:Ran across this...thought I would share it and get your feedback
If we had a White Pride Day
... You would call us racists.
Whites already have that, their called "Polish Heritage days" and "Italian Pride" days.

Nothing racist about them at all. Who is calling that racist?

The words "WHITE PRIDE" are racist.
Christina Marie wrote:Ran across this...thought I would share it and get your feedback
If we had any organization for only whites
to "advance" OUR lives
... We'd be racists.
Once again, that was happening before black organizations were created...
Christina Marie wrote:Ran across this...thought I would share it and get your feedback
We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce,
a Black Chamber of Commerce,
and then we just have the plain
Chamber of Commerce.
Wonder who pays for that?
Blacks, Mexicans and Whites.
Christina Marie wrote:Ran across this...thought I would share it and get your feedback
If we had a college fund that only gave
white students scholarships
... You know we'd be racists.
Black scholarships were created to balance out the unequal amount of blacks in college. No one would take them in so they needed to create that to make things fair.

If those programs weren't in place I GUARANTEE you blacks would have a REALLY hard time getting into school...

Christina Marie wrote:Ran across this...thought I would share it and get your feedback
In the Million Man March,
you believed that you were
marching for your race and rights.
If we marched for our race and rights,
... You would call us racists.
This thread needs to be deleted.......



SMH @ "Martin Luther King Day"

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Unread post by A Ghost » October 5th, 2007, 9:32 am

Christina asks: "Ghost, why are the words white pride racist?"



Good question Christina, I'll answer for you. Because 98% of the time, people who preach "White Pride" are doing it to spread racism and hate. As evidenced by that list.

98% of the time when blacks preach "Black Pride" it's to feel good about themselves and work to making things better for blacks. And NOT to teach hate. (See black panthers)





Christina asks: "But Ghost, that's not true the black panthers were racist!"


Actually Christina they weren't. Whites sat in on Black Panther speeches and were never harmed, they were accepted. Whites worked in the offices of the black panthers helping to organize things and print newsletters etc... If they were truly racist then those whites would not have been allowed even in the building.




Any more questions Christina?

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Unread post by A Ghost » October 5th, 2007, 9:33 am

I have a quick question for Christian though.

Christina, what's your ethnicity?

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Unread post by KINGFEAR62 » October 5th, 2007, 10:22 am

I think she is white

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Unread post by EmperorPenguin » October 5th, 2007, 11:40 am

A Ghost wrote:Christina asks: "Ghost, why are the words white pride racist?"



Good question Christina, I'll answer for you. Because 98% of the time, people who preach "White Pride" are doing it to spread racism and hate. As evidenced by that list.

98% of the time when blacks preach "Black Pride" it's to feel good about themselves and work to making things better for blacks. And NOT to teach hate. (See black panthers)





Christina asks: "But Ghost, that's not true the black panthers were racist!"


Actually Christina they weren't. Whites sat in on Black Panther speeches and were never harmed, they were accepted. Whites worked in the offices of the black panthers helping to organize things and print newsletters etc... If they were truly racist then those whites would not have been allowed even in the building.




Any more questions Christina?
I'm not sure where you get your percentages from but it irritates me when people attach percentages onto statements and try to pass them off as facts. My wife does it all the time. Drives me up the wall. Anyways, as far as the whole white pride black pride thing goes as I've stated before those words SHOULDN'T be used as racists, likewise Black pride should be about being proud and anyone claiming otherwise is making up their own reason for "black pride". I won't argue that a majority of people use the term White Pride with a racist agenda in mind but that's not what white pride SHOULD be about. Pride is about being proud of something, not holding that something over someone else. That's the fault of the person not the term White Pride. Like the symbols of swastikas and maltese crosses. So many people have tried to change what they're meant for but a select educated few know what they really mean.

I don't agree with the list posted mind you. I think some of it is seriously flawed and the author is misguided. I do find it funny how someone literally copy and pastes it asking for peoples thoughts and a handful of people think Christina is the author and should some how answer for it. I don't believe she wrote it and it seems to be the purpose was for discussion, mission accomplished. I don't think your anger should be directed towards her.

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Unread post by Christina Marie » October 5th, 2007, 12:05 pm

You really have NO business putting words in my mouth. Sorry to get you all flustered. And yes I AM white and yes I feel there is some truth to this. There are alot of double standards and its straight BS. Does this mean I am racist? You will draw your own conclusions (OBVIOUSLY). Seems though that the truth bothers you a bit or you wouldnt be so defensive.
A Ghost wrote:Christina asks: "Ghost, why are the words white pride racist?"



Good question Christina, I'll answer for you. Because 98% of the time, people who preach "White Pride" are doing it to spread racism and hate. As evidenced by that list.

98% of the time when blacks preach "Black Pride" it's to feel good about themselves and work to making things better for blacks. And NOT to teach hate. (See black panthers)





Christina asks: "But Ghost, that's not true the black panthers were racist!"


Actually Christina they weren't. Whites sat in on Black Panther speeches and were never harmed, they were accepted. Whites worked in the offices of the black panthers helping to organize things and print newsletters etc... If they were truly racist then those whites would not have been allowed even in the building.




Any more questions Christina?

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Unread post by LcBwC » October 5th, 2007, 12:32 pm

I agree that there are double standards and I dont think that they are persay "right" but they are justifiable in some cases. I look at it like this, the reason all of those things exist in that "free expression writing" is that minorities were denied so many rights and set so far behind that thats society's way of giving a little.

Im with AGhost on the MLK day...thats funny. If it was a white man doing the same things that he did, he would have a day too.

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Unread post by Christina Marie » October 5th, 2007, 12:38 pm

LcBwC wrote:I agree that there are double standards and I dont think that they are persay "right" but they are justifiable in some cases. I look at it like this, the reason all of those things exist in that "free expression writing" is that minorities were denied so many rights and set so far behind that thats society's way of giving a little.

Im with AGhost on the MLK day...thats funny. If it was a white man doing the same things that he did, he would have a day too.
I agree MLK was an amazing man, I admire him greatly and we should ALL celebrate him and his accomplishments.

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Unread post by Sentenza » October 5th, 2007, 12:48 pm

That i am being confident with being a (white) german, doesnt mean that i think i am better than anyone else. Yes i take pride in that, for all my family and all the sacrifices they made for my country.

And i also see that blacks have gone through A LOT of suffering and still are these days. No doubt. But to blame it all on the white man, everything that is going wrong is 100% BS and irresponsible. Black people need to take responsibility for their own issues and if they feel they are being held down, they need to take what they want, fight and still keep the common sense.
Many american blacks, as far as i understood it, are seeing conspiracies by the white man everywhere, when they need to understand that the key for change is within themselves.

White people in Europe also struggled hard for the freedom they have now and no gifts were handed out and a lot of blood was shed.

So for me being proud of my heritage means, i respect my roots and my people, but so i do respect everyone else, no matter where they are from, but i hold my flag up high, no matter where i go.

For everyone (white, black, yellow etc.) who interprets pride as hating other people, i say fuck them.

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Unread post by EmperorPenguin » October 5th, 2007, 5:31 pm

Sentenza wrote:That i am being confident with being a (white) german, doesnt mean that i think i am better than anyone else. Yes i take pride in that, for all my family and all the sacrifices they made for my country.

And i also see that blacks have gone through A LOT of suffering and still are these days. No doubt. But to blame it all on the white man, everything that is going wrong is 100% BS and irresponsible. Black people need to take responsibility for their own issues and if they feel they are being held down, they need to take what they want, fight and still keep the common sense.
Many american blacks, as far as i understood it, are seeing conspiracies by the white man everywhere, when they need to understand that the key for change is within themselves.

White people in Europe also struggled hard for the freedom they have now and no gifts were handed out and a lot of blood was shed.

So for me being proud of my heritage means, i respect my roots and my people, but so i do respect everyone else, no matter where they are from, but i hold my flag up high, no matter where i go.

For everyone (white, black, yellow etc.) who interprets pride as hating other people, i say fu-- them.
I too know what my ancestors went through. I know about their struggle and their plans of peace and working hard and being left alone more or less. I know what they suffered at the hands of various governments, I know they were pushed around and beaten and battered. I know they escaped Europe to make a better life for themselves and future generations. I respect that, and I'm thankful for that. I would never put them under a heading of "white" because they were people and there was more to them then just their skin colour. Likewise with Africans who were forced over to America. To label it as simplistic as "black" people is an insult to them and their heritage.

Though you being proud of being German just blows me away. Which part of being German are you most proud of? Starting WWI or starting WWII? Perhaps the Berlin Wall?? HUH!? Insane I say! But seriously, this is how most of the world views people who simply say "I'm proud of being white" because it's always taking the negative aspects of "white" people and saying "Oh you most be proud to be a part of THAT!". There's nothing wrong with knowing your linage and being respectful of it, provided you're not a descendant of Hitler.....you're not right?

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Unread post by Sentenza » October 5th, 2007, 5:45 pm

EmperorPenguin wrote:
Sentenza wrote:That i am being confident with being a (white) german, doesnt mean that i think i am better than anyone else. Yes i take pride in that, for all my family and all the sacrifices they made for my country.

And i also see that blacks have gone through A LOT of suffering and still are these days. No doubt. But to blame it all on the white man, everything that is going wrong is 100% BS and irresponsible. Black people need to take responsibility for their own issues and if they feel they are being held down, they need to take what they want, fight and still keep the common sense.
Many american blacks, as far as i understood it, are seeing conspiracies by the white man everywhere, when they need to understand that the key for change is within themselves.

White people in Europe also struggled hard for the freedom they have now and no gifts were handed out and a lot of blood was shed.

So for me being proud of my heritage means, i respect my roots and my people, but so i do respect everyone else, no matter where they are from, but i hold my flag up high, no matter where i go.

For everyone (white, black, yellow etc.) who interprets pride as hating other people, i say fu-- them.

Though you being proud of being German just blows me away. Which part of being German are you most proud of? Starting WWI or starting WWII? Perhaps the Berlin Wall?? HUH!? Insane I say! But seriously, this is how most of the world views people who simply say "I'm proud of being white" because it's always taking the negative aspects of "white" people and saying "Oh you most be proud to be a part of THAT!". There's nothing wrong with knowing your linage and being respectful of it, provided you're not a descendant of Hitler.....you're not right?
Oh lol, dont get me started. I like Marx, Nietzsche, Goethe, Mozart, Einstein, Hegel and so on. Fuck Hitler and his stupid attitude and fuck all who followed him and fuck the attitude that started that started WW1. I prefer to think of Germany as the country of thinkers and poets.
I am aware of the dark ages of German history and i am not proud of it. It was a damn shame. And still i am proud of my heritage and what my family accomplished in this country. They were disowned, raped, killed and still kept going and made something out of it.
Like i said, those are my rooots, but i dont put myself above anyone. We are all humans.

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Unread post by Sentenza » October 5th, 2007, 5:48 pm

^^Except for Canadians.. :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink:

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Unread post by A Ghost » October 5th, 2007, 8:02 pm

EmperorPenguin wrote:
A Ghost wrote:Christina asks: "Ghost, why are the words white pride racist?"



Good question Christina, I'll answer for you. Because 98% of the time, people who preach "White Pride" are doing it to spread racism and hate. As evidenced by that list.

98% of the time when blacks preach "Black Pride" it's to feel good about themselves and work to making things better for blacks. And NOT to teach hate. (See black panthers)





Christina asks: "But Ghost, that's not true the black panthers were racist!"


Actually Christina they weren't. Whites sat in on Black Panther speeches and were never harmed, they were accepted. Whites worked in the offices of the black panthers helping to organize things and print newsletters etc... If they were truly racist then those whites would not have been allowed even in the building.




Any more questions Christina?
I'm not sure where you get your percentages from but it irritates me when people attach percentages onto statements and try to pass them off as facts. My wife does it all the time. Drives me up the wall. Anyways, as far as the whole white pride black pride thing goes as I've stated before those words SHOULDN'T be used as racists, likewise Black pride should be about being proud and anyone claiming otherwise is making up their own reason for "black pride". I won't argue that a majority of people use the term White Pride with a racist agenda in mind but that's not what white pride SHOULD be about. Pride is about being proud of something, not holding that something over someone else. That's the fault of the person not the term White Pride. Like the symbols of swastikas and maltese crosses. So many people have tried to change what they're meant for but a select educated few know what they really mean.

I don't agree with the list posted mind you. I think some of it is seriously flawed and the author is misguided. I do find it funny how someone literally copy and pastes it asking for peoples thoughts and a handful of people think Christina is the author and should some how answer for it. I don't believe she wrote it and it seems to be the purpose was for discussion, mission accomplished. I don't think your anger should be directed towards her.
Im not angry at her and I know she didnt say it but I CANT STAND THAT STUPID LIST

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Unread post by A Ghost » October 5th, 2007, 8:03 pm

LcBwC wrote: Im with AGhost on the MLK day...thats funny. If it was a white man doing the same things that he did, he would have a day too.
They name SCHOOLS after White Organized crime members, MURDERERS!

Yet a black civil rights leader who never even hurt a fly can't get a STREET named after him????

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Unread post by A Ghost » October 5th, 2007, 8:05 pm

Christina Marie wrote:You really have NO business putting words in my mouth. Sorry to get you all flustered. And yes I AM white and yes I feel there is some truth to this. There are alot of double standards and its straight BS. Does this mean I am racist? You will draw your own conclusions (OBVIOUSLY). Seems though that the truth bothers you a bit or you wouldnt be so defensive.
A Ghost wrote:Christina asks: "Ghost, why are the words white pride racist?"



Good question Christina, I'll answer for you. Because 98% of the time, people who preach "White Pride" are doing it to spread racism and hate. As evidenced by that list.

98% of the time when blacks preach "Black Pride" it's to feel good about themselves and work to making things better for blacks. And NOT to teach hate. (See black panthers)





Christina asks: "But Ghost, that's not true the black panthers were racist!"


Actually Christina they weren't. Whites sat in on Black Panther speeches and were never harmed, they were accepted. Whites worked in the offices of the black panthers helping to organize things and print newsletters etc... If they were truly racist then those whites would not have been allowed even in the building.




Any more questions Christina?
I know thats not your list but I cant stand that garbage ass list.

It's like training literature for the KKK and I proved it ALL wrong.

Nothing personal against you, but that list has more errors and contradictions than the bible...

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Unread post by A Ghost » October 5th, 2007, 8:06 pm

Sentenza wrote:That i am being confident with being a (white) german, doesnt mean that i think i am better than anyone else. Yes i take pride in that, for all my family and all the sacrifices they made for my country. /
BAM!

There we go.

German pride.

NOT "white pride"

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Unread post by A Ghost » October 5th, 2007, 8:09 pm

EmperorPenguin wrote:
A Ghost wrote:Christina asks: "Ghost, why are the words white pride racist?"



Good question Christina, I'll answer for you. Because 98% of the time, people who preach "White Pride" are doing it to spread racism and hate. As evidenced by that list.

98% of the time when blacks preach "Black Pride" it's to feel good about themselves and work to making things better for blacks. And NOT to teach hate. (See black panthers)





Christina asks: "But Ghost, that's not true the black panthers were racist!"


Actually Christina they weren't. Whites sat in on Black Panther speeches and were never harmed, they were accepted. Whites worked in the offices of the black panthers helping to organize things and print newsletters etc... If they were truly racist then those whites would not have been allowed even in the building.




Any more questions Christina?
I'm not sure where you get your percentages from but it irritates me when people attach percentages onto statements and try to pass them off as facts. My wife does it all the time. Drives me up the wall. Anyways, as far as the whole white pride black pride thing goes as I've stated before those words SHOULDN'T be used as racists, likewise Black pride should be about being proud and anyone claiming otherwise is making up their own reason for "black pride". I won't argue that a majority of people use the term White Pride with a racist agenda in mind but that's not what white pride SHOULD be about. Pride is about being proud of something, not holding that something over someone else. That's the fault of the person not the term White Pride. Like the symbols of swastikas and maltese crosses. So many people have tried to change what they're meant for but a select educated few know what they really mean.

I don't agree with the list posted mind you. I think some of it is seriously flawed and the author is misguided. I do find it funny how someone literally copy and pastes it asking for peoples thoughts and a handful of people think Christina is the author and should some how answer for it. I don't believe she wrote it and it seems to be the purpose was for discussion, mission accomplished. I don't think your anger should be directed towards her.
The thing is, a lot of people have a good idea, or exactly know their heritage.

They don't walk around saying "Man oh man I'm proud to be white"

They said "I'm a proud Italiano. Or, I'm proud of my Irish/Polish heritage" etc...

Just like what Senteza said, he's proud to be German.

Blacks are proud to be black, because they don't know if they're Rwandan, Somalian, Ethiopian etc...

At least a lot don't....

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Unread post by A Ghost » October 5th, 2007, 8:12 pm

EmperorPenguin wrote:I would never put them under a heading of "white" because they were people and there was more to them then just their skin color. Likewise with Africans who were forced over to America. To label it as simplistic as "black" people is an insult to them and their heritage.
You didn't read what I wrote.

Due to slavery, blacks don't know where they hail from.

Walk up to an American black person and ask them where their great great great grandparents come from.

I'm willing to bet they won't be able to tell you specifically where in Africa they were stolen from.....

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Unread post by MiChuhSuh » October 5th, 2007, 8:20 pm

Only MY PEOPLE never take sh*t. MY PEOPLE don't let the "environment" f*ck with us or b*tch about "products of the enviroment." We don't even really adapt, we tear sh*t up and change the system.

MY PEOPLE aren't f*cking stupid cave monkeys or knuckle dragging idiots. We use our brain and use what we have to get what we want in life.

MY PEOPLE aren't just materialistic, simple minded consumers. We think deep about the "beyond," the abstract, not bullsh*t like what am I gonna wear or eat today.

MY PEOPLE aren't lazy or pathetic, we don't sit on our asses or lay back when times get hard, we push the line 23X harder.

MY PEOPLE take care of and respect our elders. Our parents give us sh*t, true, but we respect them anyways because we know it's good for us in the long run. Family bonds build our base for survival.

MY PEOPLE recognize when real sh*t has been stated. We don't think "might is right," we look to wisdom and logic in leadership, not idiotic bullying.

MY PEOPLE are the best, and if you're not with it then FVCK YOU!!!!!! You can go back to clubbing each other and eating bananas with your toes you punk b!tches!!!!!!


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HOMO SAPIENS SAPIENS 4 LIFE!
HUMAN PRIDE!

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Unread post by Sentenza » October 5th, 2007, 8:42 pm

MiChuhSuh wrote: HOMO SAPIENS SAPIENS 4 LIFE!
HUMAN PRIDE!
Cosign!

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Re: Proud To Be White (And it's long over-due.)

Unread post by StillNoScript » October 6th, 2007, 1:22 am

Proud To Be White (And it's long over-due.)

Someone finally said it.

How many are actually paying attention to this?
There are African Americans,
Mexican Americans,
Asian Americans,
Arab Americans,
Native Americans, etc.
...And then there are just -
Americans.

You pass me on the street
and sneer in my direction.
You Call me "White boy,"
"Cracker," "Honkey,"
"Whitey," "Caveman,"
... And that's OK.

But when I call you the N word,
Kike, Towel head,
Sand-nigger, Camel Jockey,
Beaner, Gook, or Chink
... You call me a racist.

You say that whites commit a lot
of violence against you,
so why are the ghettos the most
dangerous places to live?

You have the United Negro College Fund.
You have Martin Luther King Day.
You have Black History Month.
You have Cesar Chavez Day.
You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi.
You Have Yom Hashoah.
You have the NAACP.
And you have BET.

If we had WET
(White Entertainment Television)
... We'd be racists.

If we had a White Pride Day
... You would call us racists.

If we had White History Month
... We'd be racists.

If we had any organization for only whites
to "advance" OUR lives
... We'd be racists.

We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce,
a Black Chamber of Commerce,
and then we just have the plain
Chamber of Commerce.
Wonder who pays for that?

If we had a college fund that only gave
white students scholarships
... You know we'd be racists.

There are over 60 openly-proclaimed
Black-only Colleges in the US ,
yet if there were "White-only Colleges"
... THAT would be a racist college.

In the Million Man March,
you believed that you were
marching for your race and rights.
If we marched for our race and rights,
... You would call us racists.
"You still wouldn't trade places with me" -Chris Rock.

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Unread post by StillNoScript » October 6th, 2007, 1:40 am

Christina Marie wrote:yes I AM white and yes I feel there is some truth to this. There are alot of double standards and its straight BS.
You can celebrate White History Month any time you want to. The rest of the country is. Go to any school today and do you think they're studying Malcom X?
Does this mean I am racist? You will draw your own conclusions (OBVIOUSLY).
Probably because

a) you post an article promoting white pride

b) you yourself can't seem to just say, clearly, that you're not a racist. Your only answer to the question is for us to draw our own conclusions. That's disturbing.

Well, based on what I've read so far, my conclusion is drawn, per your insistence. I think you do harbor some racist feelings, and that it dictates at least some decisions that you make in your life. Nothing else would explain this thread, and your defense of the essay.
Seems though that the truth bothers you a bit or you wouldnt be so defensive.


This thread being started to begin with is a pretty clear indication that you're the one bothered by the truth. Most people here are perfectly fine with the double standards pointed out in the essay. Out of all double standards in this country, those are the few that go in favor of minorities. And, note that they don't include privileges having anything to do with wealth, land ownership, or the benefit of the doubt from law enforcement. Blacks have BET and Black History Month. The vast majority of whites can live their entire lives without ever being halted by a peace officer. What would you rather have?

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Unread post by EmperorPenguin » October 6th, 2007, 8:24 am

A Ghost wrote:
EmperorPenguin wrote:I would never put them under a heading of "white" because they were people and there was more to them then just their skin color. Likewise with Africans who were forced over to America. To label it as simplistic as "black" people is an insult to them and their heritage.
You didn't read what I wrote.

Due to slavery, blacks don't know where they hail from.

Walk up to an American black person and ask them where their great great great grandparents come from.

I'm willing to bet they won't be able to tell you specifically where in Africa they were stolen from.....
I think a part of that is a failure to even attempt to look into it. It may not me cheap but in Africa they have on record all the slave trading books where they kept names of people who arrived to be sold to America. They usually listed their given name, followed by their new Christian name and in most cases the area in which they were stolen from. The cases in which they didn't list where they were stolen from their birth name usually gave good indications as to where their tribes were from. In some cases they didn't have a birth name listed. Those cases are hard to track down, but that's where simple DNA tests come in. They may not be 100% either but they can give you some idea of where in Africa a person might be from. Like I said, it's not cheap on any level but the information is out there for those who want to find it. I think it most cases some people just find it easier to say "African" then to try to find out, and then there's those cases where people DO find out and they come to find out that their roots aren't what they thought or hoped for.

Like I said, a good portion of the information is there, it's just doing the leg work to find out. I wasn't handed my family tree. I had to dig and dig. Luckily it wasn't costly but it was very time consuming. Likewise, up here we get a lot of people claiming "native pride" the trouble is there are hundreds of hundreds of different tribes and so many of them differ from each other that to simply pass it off as "native pride" is an insult to their heritage. Do the research. It's all out there, it just takes time and sometimes money but if you're really "proud" of your ancestory then do them a favor and make sure you know what you're being "proud" of.

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Unread post by EmperorPenguin » October 6th, 2007, 8:28 am

StillNoScript wrote:
Christina Marie wrote:Does this mean I am racist? You will draw your own conclusions (OBVIOUSLY).
Probably because

a) you post an article promoting white pride

b) you yourself can't seem to just say, clearly, that you're not a racist. Your only answer to the question is for us to draw our own conclusions. That's disturbing.

Well, based on what I've read so far, my conclusion is drawn, per your insistence. I think you do harbor some racist feelings, and that it dictates at least some decisions that you make in your life. Nothing else would explain this thread, and your defense of the essay.
I didn't see her DEFENDING the article, only her reasons for posting it. I think she stated clearly in her first post was to discuss the list and to give some feedback. I don't see anything wrong with that. At least we're all having a relatively civil conversation. I find it sad that by posting a "white pride" article and asking for feedback automatically makes one a racist. I think that's poor association.

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Unread post by Christina Marie » October 6th, 2007, 10:53 am

A Ghost wrote:
Christina Marie wrote:You really have NO business putting words in my mouth. Sorry to get you all flustered. And yes I AM white and yes I feel there is some truth to this. There are alot of double standards and its straight BS. Does this mean I am racist? You will draw your own conclusions (OBVIOUSLY). Seems though that the truth bothers you a bit or you wouldnt be so defensive.
A Ghost wrote:Christina asks: "Ghost, why are the words white pride racist?"



Good question Christina, I'll answer for you. Because 98% of the time, people who preach "White Pride" are doing it to spread racism and hate. As evidenced by that list.

98% of the time when blacks preach "Black Pride" it's to feel good about themselves and work to making things better for blacks. And NOT to teach hate. (See black panthers)





Christina asks: "But Ghost, that's not true the black panthers were racist!"


Actually Christina they weren't. Whites sat in on Black Panther speeches and were never harmed, they were accepted. Whites worked in the offices of the black panthers helping to organize things and print newsletters etc... If they were truly racist then those whites would not have been allowed even in the building.




Any more questions Christina?
I know thats not your list but I cant stand that garbage ass list.

It's like training literature for the KKK and I proved it ALL wrong.

Nothing personal against you, but that list has more errors and contradictions than the bible...
Then why you coming at me like thats my own personal list? You need to rechannel your displaced anger kiddo.

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Unread post by Christina Marie » October 6th, 2007, 11:04 am

StillNoScript wrote:
Christina Marie wrote:yes I AM white and yes I feel there is some truth to this. There are alot of double standards and its straight BS.
You can celebrate White History Month any time you want to. The rest of the country is. Go to any school today and do you think they're studying Malcom X?

And you can celebrate black history everyday of the year too :) And yes we did study Malcom X in HS.
Does this mean I am racist? You will draw your own conclusions (OBVIOUSLY).
Probably because

a) you post an article promoting white pride

b) you yourself can't seem to just say, clearly, that you're not a racist. Your only answer to the question is for us to draw our own conclusions. That's disturbing.

I post alot of articles on here. You notice? Some I agree with some I dont. I am a moderator on here and its my job to remain impartial thats why you seldomly will see me voicing an opinion. I know I am not racist and thats really the only persons opinion that matters to me on that.

Well, based on what I've read so far, my conclusion is drawn, per your insistence. I think you do harbor some racist feelings, and that it dictates at least some decisions that you make in your life. Nothing else would explain this thread, and your defense of the essay.

I already stated that I feel there are double standards regarding this issue. And if you think that makes me a racist you are a fool.
Seems though that the truth bothers you a bit or you wouldnt be so defensive.


This thread being started to begin with is a pretty clear indication that you're the one bothered by the truth. Most people here are perfectly fine with the double standards pointed out in the essay. Out of all double standards in this country, those are the few that go in favor of minorities. And, note that they don't include privileges having anything to do with wealth, land ownership, or the benefit of the doubt from law enforcement. Blacks have BET and Black History Month. The vast majority of whites can live their entire lives without ever being halted by a peace officer. What would you rather have?

Most people dont have the balls to point out, call out the double standards and I will tell you that I am not in the vast majority.

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