Little bit of Black and Mexican history

These concepts are socially constructed and have been given much weight. What are your thoughts?
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Little bit of Black and Mexican history

Unread postby LAResident » October 16th, 2016, 2:52 am


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Re: Little bit of Black and Mexican history

Unread postby ~J~ » October 29th, 2017, 2:48 am

Appreciate the message on positivity but you may lose some people on opinions that aren't necessary fact based. any real Mexican worth their weight and honest knows there was a settlement Africans along the Veracruz area roughly during the colonial period... being 3-4% of what have you doesn't make you another "Race". anyway, while bringing understanding between two large minorities is a good start it's really about bringing everyone together and you probably know that, there's a covert war being fought by those at the high top and most regular folks don't even know it's happening.

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Re: Little bit of Black and Mexican history

Unread postby Lonewolf » October 30th, 2017, 11:49 am

i've read that at one time there were more blacks in mejico city, there were more blacks than even spaniards and native mexicans at one time. I've also have come to learn that more than a few mexican independence leaders were in fact black or mulato (mixed), including one the greatest generals who fought tooth and nail to get mexico it's independence from spain had black blood running through his vains (Jose Maria Pavon), and then mejicos first President was none other than Vicente Guerrero, also a mulato. Also, if you read the annals of mexican war of independence, when the so-called "priest" Miguel Hidalo y Costilla, well, his army was at first heavily formed by blacks, with natives being in the second row. So in other words, mejico owns a great deal to blacks. Also, contrary to blacks in amerika which have not been ethnically absorbed as equal americans by white society, in mejico they did integrate heavely in marriage, thus what you have now is veracruzans, guerrenses, pueblans and oaxacans (mexican states), a lot of those folks are mixed black and native indian, thus in mejico you don't have that racial caste system like in the u.s., in mejiico you are mexican no matter what color of skin, and society functions without distinction as to bloodline, while here in the u.s. we continue to segregate due to ethnicity or skin color, and so the u.s has failed big time in incorporating all the non-whites into society in general, so we end up with all this b.s., that did not happen in mejico., the problem with black americans in general, is that you have become too much like the white man and woman, by default, mind you. One observation goes like this, if a white man in challenged by a brown man in (for lack of another example) in a traffic stop, well, that white man is going to come at your first with pleasantries and a fake respect towards the brown man, but once it is established that this brown man is going to issue you a citation, then the white man begins to try and cause you to lose you cool with all their education and start questioning you in a "professional" manner to try and impress upon you that they are smart (intelligent) and have rights. After that doesn't work in dissuading the officer from issuing the citation, what happens? The werewolf comes out and they lash out at the brown person, i want your name and badge number and i want to talk to your supervisor, on and on and on they start their war of you and just can't stand that a brown person who is supposed to "serve them" now has authority over their actions, so anger and rough language is their reaction when sh*hit doesn't go their way. On to black folks, for the most part follow the same process, only blacks tend to get angry and abusive with their language much earlier than going through the motions of i'm smart and i have education, blacks just go off and start using attitude as their tool to accomplish tearing the other person down, that's what white folks do, try to intimidate you into letting them off, that to me is a trait which black-americans inherited from their white masters ~> anger and politeness in dealing with others. It is not that is right or wrong, because what is right and what is wrong is subjective. There's reasons for everything, and how one acts and behaves in terms of ethnic or race matters and issues, so who's right and who's wrong is not the question, but the question is why are we here in america they way we are, when do we look down upon each other? Why is there so much division and antagonism. Most of it is indeed manipulated, as for example when a police department wants more officers, more tools, more this more that in order tackle the growing problems, but if the city, county, or government do not want to give them anything of real value, what do the police departments do? They back off and let s*hit get out of control, so when all the complaints and tragedies start to overwhelm city government, they tend to compromise and give the department some of what they were asking for. The cops manipulated the situation with an end result that gave them something instead of nothing, right? So that's also the case with the system here in amerika run by white society, they manipulate everything quietly and in unison to keep all the so-termed "minorities" in line, and the status quo remains with them at the top, and we brown and black continue to fall under their spell vying against each other in complete ignorance of what's going on. YES black and brown have a lot of history together, and most latin-american countries blacks have been integrated into the mutt race where europeans, blacks and natives carry each others blood in their vains, but here in amekica, is not encouraged, and so amerika has remained a nation of immigrants, whether from old or recent times, but overall in general terms, everyone keeps to their own and so the division remain because, that is exactly how white society remains atop making all the rules of how we get along here in the states. American-Blacks in seen as not the same as blacks from latin-america, your attitude is different, it is one of competition and arrogance, a trait alien to mixed bloodlines where the predominant trait is mellowness. Here in the US, both black and brown follow on the footsteps of whites, and tend to act like them in public -no matter how much they say you are different- blacks in amerika have the same negative attitude towards just like whites do.


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