Biker gangs and street gangs

The motorcycle and car club scene in Southern Cal is growing and has globalized in recent years. They are not gangs, but many former gang members have got into them.
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Unread postby Samson28 » January 25th, 2013, 1:03 am

Here is another video I found:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zT_9tcDBpzI

Look at the young guy between 27 and 28 seconds in. Thats how a lot of Polish people look: asian or semi asian. A lot of people there dont even look anything like white people in western europe or America. They just look dangerous and hard. They are not whites or wedo or anything like that. A lot of Polaks have this semi asiatic semi Siberian look about them.

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Unread postby Samson28 » January 25th, 2013, 3:45 am

Like I said, these guys are the hardest of the hard. Polish Ultras: NO 1 in the world:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pf6z515 ... aA&index=3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyegHvnK ... rofilepage

The guy who keeps uploading these seems even more passionate than me. He is net banging in Youtube comments against Russians, Germans, Serbians, Croats, etc. Just read some of his responses. He is proud to be hard and Polak and part of these guys. This movement against society and against common decency.

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Unread postby Samson28 » January 25th, 2013, 12:39 pm

Watch those Polish vids I posted and compare those guys (Polish) to white guys in the USA like this whore who is a Mexican punching bag:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bTiU-73UDo

Compare that white guy to the Polaks in this vid and see the difference:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln-HDBSwU2I

Do you think any of those battle hardened (even the ones with no training) Polaks would get beat like this by some dipshet mexican who is too pussy to even let the white up? The Polaks would be just as cheap and stomp him until he was uncontious unlike what he did to that tatted up American white guy who he couldnt even finish. And those dipshets on youtube are posting comments like brown pride, etc. Theya re more racist than any whites. Id like to see them try that shet in Poland or have a Polak fight that guy like in my vid on 1:47 and the guy on 1:51. Do you think those guys would lose that way or even lose at all? Id have my money on the Polaks who headbutt you into oblivion and continue stomping till your out over some mexican brown pride faggot. Fact is when you fight a lot even with no training and you are ind ecent shape you could beat the crap out of that cactus eater. They choose some nobody who probably never fought in his life to make whites look abd in those felony vids. Even the camera guy was disrespecting him and saying stuff like "beat that white" etc. during it. Id like to see them try that shit on the real hardcore Polish who fight every few days.

Who would you have your money on? That Mexican in felony fights or the Polish roided guy on 1:47 or the other one on 1:51? Look at the Polish guy in 3:58 the way he turns and is about to come at the camera crew? Look how high he keeps his hands and the position they are in. Do you think that American wannabe brown pride gangster or white with a swastika tattoo would have a chance against him? I doubt together even they would. Look how they cant even keep their hands up and fall over one another. Thats how people in the USA fight like they have a paper bag over their face.

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Unread postby Sentenza » January 25th, 2013, 1:00 pm

You are talking a whole lot of shit Samson. Most polish people are regular, humble people that have the euro and economical crisis on their mind and not fighting with random people like useless pieces of shit. They wouldnt harm a fly, honest, humble and solid.
All this "my transformer is stronger then your transformer" shit talk is weird as fuck. If you wouldnt feel weak as fuck you wouldnt always talk about warrior this, warrior that. The polish people have other problems and consider your heros as scum too.
You need to fix your head.

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Unread postby Samson28 » January 25th, 2013, 2:42 pm

Im not the one starting the shit. Again read those youtube comments everytime a brown or black guy beats up a white how proud you people are, and how you are first to say brown pride and anything to make yourselves feel less inferior. Yea Polish people got other problems, but they are also the quickest to fight and least likely to back down out of any people in the world ive met. You. Think what happens at those matches is bad, try going to some of those smalltown discos (clubs and bars) where groups of young men will be smashing on each othersheads in lines. There will be groups literally waiting for their turn to fight against one another. They also fight with pieces of wood often not just hands. I have never seen whites who are actuallydown in Poland fight as bad as that white prison gang guy who got beat up by the mexican in that vid. First of all they have instinct to g rab if they start taking shots and try tod rop you on your head. Ive had it happen to me last time i was there were to bumrushedme and didnt even exchange. They just smash you down and stomp you. I an. Show you some of those irish street blxing vids where white guys smaller than that mexican gang banger would wipe the floor with him, but for some reason felony fights wants to pivk the shitiest white fighters (usually way less of a shape than their brown counter parts) in these faggy taped exhibition matches to make minorities feel special.

Wasnt you who said white prison gang members in the usaare tougher than polakblocker gangs or hooligans? Look at that vid and compare how tough he is and how he fights to those polaks who are beating theshit out of. Cops with full blown riot gear and notevenbeing stopped by pepper spray in their eyes.

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Unread postby Samson28 » January 25th, 2013, 2:44 pm

Oh and if you dont think blacks and browns are the biggest racists in the usa xplain how when black men date or marry white women their prople are proud but when a white man is with a black female all hellbreaks loose and they get jelous and offended? Thats real racism right there son.

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Unread postby Sentenza » January 25th, 2013, 2:50 pm

Samson28 wrote:There will be groups literally waiting for their turn to fight against one another.


Wow. Thats real great. Real fucking winners.


Samson28 wrote:Wasnt you who said white prison gang members in the usaare tougher than polakblocker gangs or hooligans? Look at that vid and compare how tough he is and how he fights to those polaks who are beating theshit out of. Cops with full blown riot gear and notevenbeing stopped by pepper spray in their eyes.


No that wasnt me and i dont care about your worshipping of something that you dont know because you have been abused all your live. Get a grip, grow a backbone and stop fantasizing. about your polish heros. Be a man yourself.

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Unread postby Samson28 » January 25th, 2013, 2:59 pm

We are so feared and hated in europe there are even net banging against us nowafter the display we showcased to the world (this guy is either a croat or russian lol):
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bbpVDH863-M

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Unread postby Samson28 » January 25th, 2013, 3:13 pm

Great article (very proud to be a Polak):
http://thinkfootball.co.uk/archives/3340

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Spend any time in the center of a Polish city on a football match day, and you are bound to hear chanting from a distance. Follow that chanting and you will see a group of supporters, predominantly dressed in their team’s colors, marching along in a pack. They are drunk, they are loud, and even frightening to the locals. At a glance, it seems highly unlikely that they are congregated for a sporting event at all, but rather for the mere spectacle of congregating.

These Polish Ultras, so long at the periphery of the global football world, are now pushed into the forefront. With four shiny new stadiums in its four most prominent tourist destinations, the European – and global – footballing spotlight will shine on Poland this June for the 2012 UEFA European Football Championship. Suddenly, the Polish (and similarly Ukrainian) footballing cultures have been catapulted to center stage. With this heightened focus, comes concern. As the first footballing tournament held in Eastern Europe since the fall of communism, there is a clash of the mainstream with the more violent and radical elements of Polish football.

The issues have emerged in the English speaking press as primarily the threat racial abuse and violence. Family members of black players for England have said they are likely to avoid traveling to Poland or Ukraine out of fear of racism. “There are reports over the last couple of weeks of racist taunts and threats, it’s just prudent for myself to keep away from it.” said the father of Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain. Theo Walcott’s family has also said it would stay home. These concerns are validated by official reports. Amnesty International UK has given a warning to fans of the reality in Poland: “The harsh reality is that racism remains commonplace in Poland and there are numerous reports of xenophobia on the terraces and in the stands of Polish football grounds. For any fan choosing to travel to the country, they should be fully aware that their experience may well be far different from their experience here in the UK.”

FIFPro, the world player’s union, also shares the concerns of not only the players being racially abused, but also the visiting fans. Theo van Seggelen, secretary-general of FIFPro said that he believes EURO 2012 “will not be remembered for the atmosphere,” suggesting it will be remembered for what goes wrong. FIFPro’s research into racism and violence in Eastern Europe, published in February, found that over 10% of professional players had been victims of violence, and 9.6% of players in the region claiming to have been racially abused. With Euro 2012, and a large number of visiting fans, the likelihood of incidents inside of a stadium are decreased. But with that, comes a fear as to what will happen outside of the stadiums.

Many of the reports and comments are seemingly condescending and stereotypical towards Poland. It is easy to project a couple of news stories onto an entire population. BBC and other news sources have been active in portraying the numerous faults of Eastern European football in the lead up to these European Championships. The reports are somewhat harsh and over-broad in their comments and condemnation of Poland and Ukraine’s ability to hold an event, yet also speak to a truth that is even recognized by the Polish citizens. The reality of racism is not difficult to spot and must be considered a legitimate concern. Consider a banner from September, 2011, in a Europa League match between Legia Warszawa and Hapoel Tel Aviv (from Israel). Covering up an entire stand, it was intentionally offensive, written in Arabic style lettering: “Jihad Legia”. The connotations are obvious and disgusting, the meaning unmistakable.

There is certainly a dark side to the Ultras of Poland. Polish stadiums are not known to be safe among the local citizens. Fans are known to revel in fighting and fires. “Pseudo-fan” is a term used by one Polish citizen to describe the perception of the Ultras. The Ultra movement is something that extends beyond merely watching a sporting event, it is an all encompassing action in which pitch invasion and fire shows are considered to be amongst the minor disturbances.

There are legitimate concerns that the Polish Ultras will respond to the Euros in a stronger force than usual. In what seems contradictory, the Polish Ultras unabashedly hate the 2012 Euros that their own nation co-hosts. The numerous signs, t-shirts, and flags with the phrase “F*** Euro” found among Polish Ultras and in Polish stadiums are clear. To the Ultras, the Euros are a suppression of their culture; an invasion on their territory. Prior to the Euros being awarded to Poland, there was no crackdown on pyrotechnics and the rampant fighting. But in an attempt to modernize the Polish game to comply with UEFA rules in anticipation of the tournament, authorities enacted stricter penalties and increased enforcement towards unruly fans.

Polish Ultras are angry against, what in their view, is an intrusion on their own ground. Further, they believe they are being scapegoated for political gain. Politicians have linked Ultras to criminal activities, ranging from drugs, to prostitution, and the Mafia. Police have become tougher on Ultras entering stadiums. The media, which prior to 2007 often praised the Ultras, has now aligned with the mainstream condemnation of the Ultra’s activity. Some fans are not allowed into the stadium, and this has made Ultras upset. The Ultras, who have owned Polish football for years, are under attack because of Euro 2012, a tournament to which a large majority of Ultras cannot even afford the tickets.

Polish football is struggling, indicated by poor performances in Europe (ranked 20th in UEFA league coefficient) and poor play on the domestic pitch. Attendance for Polish games are low. European and Ekstraklasa (domestic league) games have been at about half attendance of less. Many Ultras this season have protested against the government crackdowns by not showing up to games. The protests have created a real solidarity between Ultras in Poland, but also highlights the disconnect between the clean-up movement and the Ultras themselves. The Ultras do not accept the need to improve the security situation in games. While it must be conceded that the attempted cleanup likely was not undertaken in the most efficient or politically neutral manner, it was nevertheless necessary. Unfortunately, it has created a backlash, and this backlash has resonated in the Western media.

Anytime there is a clash of culture and economics and upheaval, conflict will ensue. The Euros are no different. Brand new top of the line stadiums do not solve problems that are deep rooted in issues far greater than football. The Ultra movement in Poland is something deeper and greater than just football. It is rooted in economics and politics; these conflicts have existed for many years prior to 2012. But because of the crackdown, Polish Ultras likely will plan to get revenge and embarrass the local government. The political issues leading to Ultra movement and crackdown are complex, yet there is no mistaking the real concern that the Ultras will take the fight to the streets. As they will not likely be in the stadiums, the streets will be the only place to showcase their passionate anger.

Despite the concerns with Ultras, there is the chance that the media has been too harsh on Poland. Poland has countless charms, and to miss them, and the main footballing event of 2012 because of a minority is a tragedy. Undoubtedly the Polish government and police will be on high alert and in full force after years of preparation to now be on the world stage. After all, Poland has spent 20 billion Euros on the upcoming tournament, and will surely seize its moment to shine. All four cities in Poland are popular tourist destinations, which are continually hosting visitors from around the world without issue.

The political concerns for Euro 2012 exists in Ukraine as well, with both fears of racism and protests for the government’s political actions. With Russia set to host both the Olympics and World Cup in the near future, these issues will surely arise again and be at the front of the Western European media. A better understanding of the forces at work, rather than broad stereotyping and protesting can help further the growth of the host nations while being a rewarding experience for all participants – visitors, teams, locals, and even the angry Ultras. In the meantime, we can hope that the police forces are ready to handle the minority of footballing fans who intend to use the Euro stage to cause trouble.

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Unread postby Samson28 » January 25th, 2013, 3:16 pm

Like I said, the ultras are a movement. A movement that transcends gangs, violence, mayhem, and fire shows. A movement for strength and honor and pride. The article above pretty much confirmed they are gangs or certainly linked to them and even mafia. They arefeared and respected by all of the underworld. Iguarantee ifthey came to the usa themexican gangs would also fear them. They are a movement against authority, against the govt. theyare essentiallytheir own culture -- a nation within a nation.

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Unread postby Samson28 » January 25th, 2013, 3:20 pm

[img]http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/135/1/a/fuck_euro_2012_by_ajwaj-d4zuotp.png[/ing]

Fuk the euro.they wouldnt let us near the international games because we would have turned the entire tournament into a jihad.

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Unread postby Samson28 » January 25th, 2013, 3:20 pm

Samson28 wrote:Image

Fuk the euro.they wouldnt let us near the international games because we would have turned the entire tournament into a jihad.

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Unread postby Sinner18 » January 25th, 2013, 3:33 pm

Man listen to what your saying when a revoultion of any kind happens someone, or some group has to come to power and take control it, man is by nature corupptecd (Sry i cant spell) in order to fight man must be balanced and have both good and bad in him because to fight for reveloution is to fight for one's honor and self respect and selfworth you can either do it two way's non violently like ghandi, king or you can do it with violence which is a balanced way that has both a courrpted idealogy and a good one to be given right's. To do that, one must be aware that he's effort of fighting may or can be in vain for the sole reason that when he die's he can not keep it together, unless he instill's it in countless generations but fighting at a football game and throwing shit at cop's sure their tough but can they handle and sway people and win the heart's of citizin's to accept their radical movement, if not they are no diffrent then terreroist's or young punks trying to be cool just my 2 cents.

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Unread postby Samson28 » January 26th, 2013, 5:24 pm

You think Polaks like this would get beaten by mexicans like whites are in the usa on almost everyone of those felony fight vids:

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Just look at his demeanor, physique, etc. it can match any of the mexicans in those felony fight vids unlike the whites they pick for it who are skinny or flabby with some nazi tatoos. The felony fight vids are probably ran by jews who want to make nazis or skinheads look real bad so they pick shit whites with no physique or fighting experience. Pick some polaks like the guy above and see what would happen. I noticed minorities in america have inferiority complexes and think they are natural fighters or warriors or some shit because the whites there are so useless at dighting and due it so seldom compared to Polaks in Poland.

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Unread postby Samson28 » January 26th, 2013, 5:26 pm

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Letsarrange. Felony fights with your best mexican his heigth and the Polak.msee what happens.

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Unread postby iboy » February 4th, 2013, 2:54 am

Samson28 your an idiot bro, seriously yeah hooligans can fight and all that, but damn the only way i hear about polaks. Are when i see them in the local trailerpark, up here in nothern europe polaks are illegal immigrants washing floors. ( no disrespect though )

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Unread postby HungryWolf » February 8th, 2013, 3:54 am

Damn, Samson, why r u spamming any thread with ur Polish hool stuff?????

As I said elsewhere, the Polish guys got my props for their fighting skills. BUT: Unlike u I know what I am talking about, because have been a member of the German hooligan scene for many years, I made my bones on the grounds of Europe (Italy, Holland, Belgium, Poland, Czech Republic, etc.) AND I personally met/fought Polish lads.

Go ahead, tell me some real stories, tell me about ur live, tell me things u have involved in! Otherwise just SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!

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Unread postby HungryWolf » February 8th, 2013, 3:57 am

Samson28 wrote:The felony fight vids are probably ran by jews who want to make nazis or skinheads look real bad so they pick shit whites with no physique or fighting experience.


Felony Fights features a NLR in one vid, Felony Fights uses music from a WP band (FInal Fight), Felony Fights shows some gruesome white boys, so this is BS big time!!!!

WHAT'S FUCKEN WRONG WITH U???

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Unread postby Samson28 » February 20th, 2013, 2:15 am

Just look at these guys faces anddemeanor even walking into a stadium:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4-rMtnSciP ... re=related

Do you see anyone in american jails or pens being able to punk them or intimidate them? Do you see them backing down from any gang or race? Im telling ya guys, Polaks, real hardcore Polaks, are a race all o to themselves. Again, watch theway theyfight in welcome to hell vid and tell me that looks like any fleony fights. Do you see any whites being able to stomp anyonein any felony fight vids or have that level of killer instinct or even the level of their mesxcan opponents?

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Unread postby MARTINEZ » February 20th, 2013, 9:19 am

why dont you take your ass to the Skin-Head website ^^

or start your own website about Soccer Hooligans

cus this shit dont carry weight around here...

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Unread postby iboy » February 21st, 2013, 2:17 pm

Samson28

you cant compare, a buch of mexican bangers and some gay polaks !

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Samson28 wrote:Just look at these guys faces anddemeanor even walking into a stadium:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4-rMtnSciP ... re=related

Do you see anyone in american jails or pens being able to punk them or intimidate them? Do you see them backing down from any gang or race? Im telling ya guys, Polaks, real hardcore Polaks, are a race all o to themselves. Again, watch theway theyfight in welcome to hell vid and tell me that looks like any fleony fights. Do you see any whites being able to stomp anyonein any felony fight vids or have that level of killer instinct or even the level of their mesxcan opponents?


The more u write, the more u become a clown. Start a Polish soccer hooligan fan club or something like that. U r no hooligan, so better come up with some real life stories. But I guess u got nothing to tell us, kid ...

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Unread postby Sentenza » February 22nd, 2013, 8:19 am

HungryWolf wrote:
Samson28 wrote:Just look at these guys faces anddemeanor even walking into a stadium:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4-rMtnSciP ... re=related

Do you see anyone in american jails or pens being able to punk them or intimidate them? Do you see them backing down from any gang or race? Im telling ya guys, Polaks, real hardcore Polaks, are a race all o to themselves. Again, watch theway theyfight in welcome to hell vid and tell me that looks like any fleony fights. Do you see any whites being able to stomp anyonein any felony fight vids or have that level of killer instinct or even the level of their mesxcan opponents?


The more u write, the more u become a clown. Start a Polish soccer hooligan fan club or something like that. U r no hooligan, so better come up with some real life stories. But I guess u got nothing to tell us, kid ...


Since i started posting on this board Samson28 aka Invincible has been on here venting his inferiority complexes. Its nothing new. Now that he apparently has visited his roots in poland he is all obsessed with something he sees in those hooligans that he thinks he is lacking, i think its called projection.

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Unread postby HungryWolf » February 25th, 2013, 5:41 am

That's true. The biggest form of disrespect is ignoring someone. So let's go ahead :lol:

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Unread postby punamusta » April 1st, 2013, 9:19 am

Sentenza wrote:Since i started posting on this board Samson28 aka Invincible has been on here venting his inferiority complexes. Its nothing new.


True. This guy always been like this. But I guess it's understandable: the guy is far from his homeland and that often seems to turn people even more patriotic than what they would normally be. Look at pretty much any minority in USA and they all seem to embrace their heritage to a point that for others it just seems silly. Roots are just so important for people. And Invicible might be a young guy. So, it don't bother me that we have a guy like this in this board. We all know the deal already.

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Unread postby HungryWolf » April 1st, 2013, 11:38 am

That's true! It's an American way to uphold ur ancestry. Most ppl do that in the USA. But this kid, he looks lonesome to me. Maybe he is gonna run amok one day, who knows? :lol:

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Re: Biker gangs and street gangs

Unread postby Sentenza » April 1st, 2013, 12:00 pm

HungryWolf wrote:That's true! It's an American way to uphold ur ancestry. Most ppl do that in the USA. But this kid, he looks lonesome to me. Maybe he is gonna run amok one day, who knows? :lol:


You should have read his old posts. Some of them are really mental.

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Re: Biker gangs and street gangs

Unread postby Samson28 » April 1st, 2013, 9:38 pm



Who do you guys think is more pissed off all the time and harder: Chechens or Polaks?

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Re: Biker gangs and street gangs

Unread postby Sentenza » April 2nd, 2013, 4:38 am

Samson28 wrote:
Who do you guys think is more pissed off all the time and harder: Chechens or Polaks?


Actually between the two i think you take the cake.

Whats the reason for all this tough guy talk? I think you have been victimized often.

Go to school, start an enterprise, work hard, let the world know that all these negative stereotypes about polish people are wrong instead of being proud of them.

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Re: Biker gangs and street gangs

Unread postby Samson28 » April 2nd, 2013, 1:38 pm

Well the reason I a sk is because both nations seem to hate Russians equally. In fact the Polaks hate them so bad some of our politicians tried allying with the Chechens before being scolded and even flew to Georgia (the same ones who were later crashed over Russia in that plane and they have weekly sows still about it trying to figure out if it was the Russians mor not).


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