The street war rages daily 24/7 in Krakow, Poland

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The street war rages daily 24/7 in Krakow, Poland

Unread postby Samson28 » May 26th, 2013, 11:18 pm

People get killed over jerseys there. Thats how massive and important this game is in Europe. But it is deeper than that, it is the remnant of a people that came from nothing and were sold for half a century after almost being wiped out by nazis. Warsaw uprising is still in their blood:



Whole documentary on a murder:


The bold Polish guy looks like he's about to cry hes so scared leading Ross Kemp to them. This is a holy war:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/6068 ... e-holy-war
http://www.krakowpost.com/article/147

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Re: The street war rages daily 24/7 in Krakow, Poland

Unread postby Samson28 » May 26th, 2013, 11:32 pm

In the last vid above at the 6 minute mark it shows the killing. It says "The victim although was cut by the machete and jumped by rival gang, doesnt give up. He goes isnide the car and looks for his own machete and attacks. Later he bleeds to death."

These guys straight up will fight to the death.

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Re: The street war rages daily 24/7 in Krakow, Poland

Unread postby Samson28 » May 26th, 2013, 11:35 pm

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http://itsjustfootballbutiloveit.blogsp ... y-war.html

"Since the first official game in 1908 the Holy War was played annually up until 1990 when, after a derby game, supporters clashed with police officers (not an uncommon feat) however this time the police responded with what was to be judged as brutal force which caused both Wisła and Cracovia fanatics to fight side by side against the police and push them back into a USSR consulate building where they took shelter. After this the annual Holy War anniversary game was banned. It wasn't until 20 years later when Cracovia returned to the Poland's top division that the Holy War resumed.

On the day of the Holy War Kraków becomes a completely different place. The streets become a battle ground between the opposing sides, the only 2 firms in Poland who did not agree to stop using weapons. The hooliganism completely consumes the city to the point where everybody not involved with the football stays inside in fear of their lives. The latest of these Holy war derby days was on the 5th November at Cracovia's Marszałek Piłsudski Stadium. Wisła snatched the game with a late goal from on loan Moroccan attacking midfielder Nourdin Boukhari in the dying minutes of extra time. The result was no surprise as Wisła are by far the more successful of the two teams however every Cracovia fan will be waiting eagerly for the next time the teams meet in May of next year."

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Re: The street war rages daily 24/7 in Krakow, Poland

Unread postby Samson28 » May 27th, 2013, 10:06 pm

what is interesting is that them fighting each other with weapons is only a shield for drug runners and gangsters who basically hire these guys for free or almsot free with the pretext of fighting for a team. It is a shield for the territories who controls where drugs are sold. However, if you look at 13: 45 they explain that many of these guys have nice cars despite being unemployed hooligans, so they also are in the crime world and it is much more than hacking each other over jerseys.

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Re: The street war rages daily 24/7 in Krakow, Poland

Unread postby Samson28 » May 27th, 2013, 10:11 pm

A lot of times its guys from the same neighborhoods getting together and being recruited by the drug runners. The guy says a 14:45 that "in the neighborhoods there are so many dealers that it hurts the head. There is no problem with it, it's everywhere. If its in the hood, the stadium, or restuarants."

"In the euro there is tension because law enforcement thinks which side controls the war will be able to sell drugs to foreign tourists coming for the euro and control the entire money pool."

At 16:00 they talk about guns being introduced into this.

"Sooner than later hooligans will reach for explosive weapons (guns). Already a few years ago police found guns in their cars. Will this lead to a gun street war?"

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Unread postby Samson28 » May 27th, 2013, 10:19 pm

Here is a translated page (pretty good) of an article about some killings in this war and the comments are interesting as well:

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/ ... nETpqnDsPw

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Re: The street war rages daily 24/7 in Krakow, Poland

Unread postby Samson28 » May 29th, 2013, 10:46 pm

The beginning says:
"Wednesday, 10 am. Krakow, early morning. The city is waking up to a regular day of life. All of a sudden a car hits a silver Audi. For the next few minutes the scene will turn into one of the most violent and bloody hits in the history of the city."

"Tomasz C is being stalked by numerous men in masks with knives and machetes. After it was done there were over 50 stab wounds on him. In this documentary we will explain what happened and explain this war."

"To understand what is happening in the war of the gangs in the streets of Krakow we have to look back on the 90s when violent hooligan groups dominated the landscape. Polish stadiums were ruled by really violent so called fans. The images of the scandals that came about were going around the world. THe police or sport groups were not able to stop them. DUring this time they became more organized and became organized with rules and fights hands on hands called "ustawki."

Then from 3:10:

"In Krakow agression between these fans became a very more brutal affair."

Police says:
"Here in krakow we have ustawki on a different level. What we have is groups of these hooligans getting together and hunting for others wearing the other jersey or in their neighborhoods They gathered weapons together and go for these hunts as signs of valor."


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