THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CLUB AND A GANG

The motorcycle and car club scene in Southern Cal is growing and has globalized in recent years. They are not gangs, but many former gang members have got into them.
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THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CLUB AND A GANG

Unread postby bumperjack » April 22nd, 2014, 10:28 am

The differences between a club and a gang, are quite distinct, but it is the connotational differences between these two words which distinguishes one from the other. The New Lexicon Webster's Dictionary of the English Language defines a club as; "...an association of people with some common interest who meet periodically..." It defines a gang as "...a number of men or boys banding together, esp. lawlessly..." This definition is traditionally slanted toward applying to male youth, and stereotypical gangsters, from the Mafia to street criminals. Persons who often have a negative attitude toward youth see gangs. Often individuals form gangs out of fear and for the protection of their members whether they are the Bloods and Crips of Los Angeles or the Sharks and the Jets of "West Side Story." Gangs may not possess a set of formal written rules, but all of them have their own sets of customs or conditions. Gangs may or may not be facilitated in a branch of higher and lower members, mimicking a military model. Gangs often have a loosely defined set of goals, and are often involved in delinquent activities.

A socially approved form of a gang is a club. Americans generally view clubs as character building leadership opportunities; whereas, individuals typecast into gangs are persecuted as criminals. Clubs are formed with constructive goals in mind, such as making it easier for its members to find parts for a particular brand of automobile. Socioeconomic class, academic achievement, or perceived roles in society for its members all play a part in the preferential treatment given to a group which a society deems a club rather than a gang. For instance, parts of the public anticipated that motorcycle riders would cause a massive rise in crime within the Hollister area during the motorcycle rally. This led to a reactionary response from local law authorities. The event, unlike previous occasions, ended without major incident. Perhaps now people are more apt to view motorcyclists as a club instead of a gang. Additionally, it is a fact that working class people are more likely to be arrested, and therefore, in groups and when typecast into gangs may be expected to commit more crimes or be criminal; the self-fulfilling cycle continues.



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Re: THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CLUB AND A GANG

Unread postby sabakanwal » October 26th, 2014, 1:00 am

gang,by laws from enterance and exit into a club and gang is what seperates them

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Re: THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CLUB AND A GANG

Unread postby bumperjack » October 30th, 2014, 8:50 pm

Yes in plain text what the difference is between a Gang and Club is how you enter and exit a Club and Gang have different ways which differentate a Club and Gang a Club does not take physical work to Enter nor Exit thats what is exactly the difference between the two. if you want to exit a club it is not a physical exit

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Re: THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CLUB AND A GANG

Unread postby MMRbkaRudog » November 4th, 2014, 10:25 am

I have seen some good points made in this topic. Personally I refer to an MC, as an MC. That's what an MC is supposed to be referred to in the gang world. In the world of law enforcement, groups like mc's and crews can be referred to as gangs. As far as how you enter and exit an MC, I do think it is different for the most part. That doesn't mean there can't be similar instances between mc's and gangs, when it comes to entering and exiting that group.

For instance, I have never heard of a biker being jumped to be initiated into an MC. In most cases for street gangs, you will hear that them jumping their members in for initiation is the case. In some cases for the gangs, you will still be asked to do something for the gang even if you were jumped as an initiation or you may possibly even skip both for whatever reason. As far as an MC, you typically will have to ride with them and can be asked to do things before they decide whether you will be a member or not. If they just decide you are not fit for it, then they'll just probably leave you alone and with a gang they may think you will need to go through their way of kicking you out. In most cases maybe it is easier to leave behind the MC, but I think if you leave in bad terms that the MC will probably want to do to you what a street gang will most likely want to do to you and especially if you have a tattoo associated with the MC.

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Re: THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CLUB AND A GANG

Unread postby bumperjack » November 4th, 2014, 6:29 pm

Yes Ruedog good post and good responce,Motorcycle Clubs do not jump nobody in nor out you enter on a allegiance to the club a promise to be loyal to the club and its a pledge and a marriage so to speak,a Gang Member has to put in work physical work and ifthey want out its a physical beating on the way out,if you have a tattoo in the say Hells Angels death head all they do is have a out date put on it,They will ask for there patch come back to the Club and any club propertyCLUBS AND GANGS ARE DIFFERENT BECAUSE OF OTHER BY LAWS THERE IS NO GANG STREET NOR PRISON GANG WERE YOU CAN GET IT ON A PROMISE TO PLEDGE YOUR ALLIGEIANCE TO BECOME A MEMBER LAW ENFORCEMENT CALLS THEM GANGS BECAUSE OF THERE WARS AMONG THE OTHER CLUBS AND ILLEGAL ACTIVITYS ALOT OF THEM GUYS GOT JOBS OWN BUSINESSES AND NEVER BEEN IN JAIL OUTLAW MAJORITY ARE NOT PUTLAWS MOST PLAY THE PART...

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Re: THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CLUB AND A GANG

Unread postby canadianbarrio » October 12th, 2017, 6:28 pm

nigga, a MC could be a gang if dey r 1%

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Re: THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CLUB AND A GANG

Unread postby Lonewolf » October 16th, 2017, 8:37 am

to me it's just a play on words; it's the same thing, club or gang., from what i've read on the chicano genealogy for the gangs, it was "pachuco clubs" in the 30s and 40s which really got the game going that we know today as street gangs, and thgen of course you have something like what's the difference between Barrio and Varrio, well, again, it's just the context in which you put it; in one you have a neighborhood community and in the other you have a criminal gang, but in reality, a Barrio is the progenitor of the Varrio, and Varrio does take it from there from the Barrio, so it would be the same thing with a club being underneath its clothing, a gang; same thing with clique and gang, a clique is basically a gang of it's own, but in the full context of the varrio world, no, a clique is part of the larger gang, but how many times have we witnessed a clique go on to either become or operate as it's own gang. gang or club, either or, depending on the era, the times, the source, the members and so on, that is what determines whether is a real gang or not just a "club" under the webster's dictionary. No?


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