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Gangster cities

Unread post by AlbaniaUnited » August 28th, 2008, 5:38 pm

I opened this topic up to understand and share with you gangster cities of Albania, Russia, Italy, Poland, Colombia, Mexico or where ever your from.

Basically I'm looking from anybody thats wants to share the gangster cities of their country meaning the cities that are known for corruption and organised crime.

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Unread post by razbojnik » August 28th, 2008, 6:19 pm

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Where Albanian organized crime operates in Macedonia:

1. Skopje
2. Tetovo
3. Gostivar
4. Debar
5. Kumanovo
6. Kicevo
7. Struga

Albanian organized crime groups also use their links to the Roma organized crime groups in the Eastern part of Macedonia to transport Heroin and other smuggled products...

As for Macedonian organized crime, every city in Macedonia, especially a big foothold in the East, especially in Stip, where it dominates the regular population.

1. Stip
2. Skopje
3. Kocani
4. Kavadarci
5. Strumica
6. Radovis
7. Delchevo
8. Bitola
9. Ohrid
10. Gevgelija
11. Prilip
12. Kriva Palanka

Including a smaller but still controlling presence in the cities where Albanian organized crime groups dominate the underworld and some parts of politics.

In Stip, there are a number of personalities which I will not mention, that are the bosses in their own way. They do business with Bulgarian and Serbian organized crime groups, Russians through Bulgaria, and even with Croatian groups, as well as Italians through Montenegro. On the other hand, Macedonian organized crime groups do business with Turkish, Roma and Albanian organized crime groups. Slavic groups tend to be more legitimized/fraud/white market based, while the Roma/Turks/Albanians tend to be more illigitimate and towards the drug trade...

Weapons trade is on both sides, so is car theft. Money laundering is a major activity amongst both businessmen and mobsters here.

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Unread post by razbojnik » August 28th, 2008, 6:23 pm

As for the corruption side, an experianced man once told me --- there is nothing worse than a Macedonian police officer. They leave you alone and let you go alot of times for different reasons but because of corruption and family ties and close connections between people, I will never hit a police officer in my life here, because just like Russia, they will murder you. They will take you to some dark alley or to the police station and beat the shit out of you and kill you.

They mind their own business usually, but can be pretty notorious if you get in a fight with them. Even though there has never been a reason for a cop to use his gun in Stip, and there never has, never happened, they still do carry them and still can use them.

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Unread post by VostokSila » August 29th, 2008, 4:48 am

As for Russia.. pretty much every major city has its own activaties.. but aside from Moscow and Peter, I can tell you about some other cities

Luberci - considered to be a dangerous, criminal city.

Novosibirsk
Magadan
Kemerovo
Omsk
Vladivostok
Stavropol - Considered one of the most poor areas in Russia, it is in the North Kavkaz.

the 5 cities above are not all super-crime cities but I chose them because they are not in the center and I wanted to tell you of provincial cities aswell.

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Unread post by Grinch » August 29th, 2008, 6:44 am

Here's the biggest cities with organized crime groups in Poland:
Warszawa
Kraków
Gdańsk
Kielce
Łódź
Poznań
Katowice

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Unread post by AlbaniaUnited » August 29th, 2008, 1:43 pm

In Albania most of the cities hold their share of criminal activities. Although Albania is used more as a base and money launderer by the Albanian gangsters abroad. Here are a few cities that are known to the Albanian public as 'underworld cities' in no particular order.

Tiranë (Middle)- The capital where most of the political corruption happens. The base of the Albanian mafia's money laundering.

Vlorë (South)- Was the heart ofthe rebellion against the government in 1997. Is also the port city in which most of heroin goes through. There are many heroin factories here and many gangs holding their share of the heroin trade. An alarming percentage of the citie's population work in the heroin operation there. This results in the city having a high homicide rate.

Durrës (Middle-North)- Another port town in which alot of drugs go through. Known as a gangsters town literally because most of the hotels, buildings, bars, etc... were built by gangsters. This is the ideal city for North Albanians to go to for fun.

Kukës (High North)- Big source city for arms/oil/drug trafficking.

Tropojë (High North)- Also a Big source city for arms/oil/drug trafficking.

Shkodra (North)- Is always on the news for killings. Is known as the place in Albania where the Kanun takes place the most. Meaning more honor killings happen there than anywhere in Albania.

Laçi (North)- Is a religious city. Its Catholic church on top of a mountain is regarded as the most important Catholic church in Albania. Despite the religious image of the city. This is no where to go to make jokes. Laçianes are regarded as big time mobsters in and out the state. In other words, this is the Corleone of Albania. It has a low population of only 20,000. Lea Rusha (his fake name) was from this city. He was a member of the Albanian heist gang who orchastrated the $106,000,000 heist in England. Which turned out to be England's largest heist in history and the second biggest peacetime heist in the world.

Lushnjë (South)- Is home of Bandes së Lushnjës (Lushnja Gang). This gang at its height during the reign of Aldo Bare was not only one of the top gangs in Albania but a top organisation in Europe. Its now incarcerated leader Aldo Bare was in charge of the south Balkan route. Which means he controlled the heroin coming to Albania through the southern Balkan route. He was widely regarded as having ties to Afghanistan being as he did not rely on Turkish groups for wholesale Heroin. He had his base in Turkey where he would take the heroin and deliver it into Albania and to Western Europe. In 1997 he cut off the head of a man because the man killed his brother. As if that wasen't enough, he paraded around his city of Lushnjë with this head showing it off bragging that this would happen to anyone who kills his family. He even went as far as playing soccer with the decapitated head.

Fieri (South)- Is a Southern city in which alot of criminal activities take place. There are also heroin factories here due to Italian police with Albanian assistance putting pressure on heroin factories in Vlorë.


There are more strongholds in Albanian dominated regions of Macedonia, Kosova and Montenegro.

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Careful, guys. AlbaniaUnited = JohnnyRed - Since no ones took him serious anymore he uses a new name to post his propaganda!

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Unread post by punamusta » August 29th, 2008, 1:58 pm

This is a difficult one to answer as organized crime groups here in Finland have members from various cities, so to name cities with most activity isn't really that simple. But I'd say:

- Helsinki (actually the metropolitan area of Helsinki. There's several criminal groups here, both national and international [connections mostly with Estonians, but also with Turks, Swedes, Dutchs, and Russians]. Biggest drug seizures in Finland are done in Helsinki metropolitan area.)
- Lahti (has always had a reputation of being a criminal city, and year after a year Lahti is one of the most violent cities in Finland. Home of the Rogues Gallery gang/group that is highly respected and probably one of the most influential groups here along with few others.)

Apart from these two cities there's several other cities that have some activity, but maybe these two are the best known.

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Unread post by razbojnik » August 30th, 2008, 10:37 am

RONNIE wrote:Careful, guys. AlbaniaUnited = JohnnyRed - Since no ones took him serious anymore he uses a new name to post his propaganda!
I thought the same, but it doesn't sound like him....

Look at his last post, does Johnny write like that?

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Unread post by razbojnik » August 30th, 2008, 10:39 am

AlbaniaUnited wrote:Durres
My friend went there with his family for summer vacation, he says there are alot of hotels and nightclubs and shit, besides that there is a beach which is an ideal place they could profit from legitimately...

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razbojnik wrote:
RONNIE wrote:Careful, guys. AlbaniaUnited = JohnnyRed - Since no ones took him serious anymore he uses a new name to post his propaganda!
I thought the same, but it doesn't sound like him....

Look at his last post, does Johnny write like that?


No he doesn't because he is a twelve year-old different kid. Also Ronnie from what I have been reading in past posts you seemed like you posted propaganda along side JohnnyRed at one point.

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razbojnik wrote:
AlbaniaUnited wrote:Durres
My friend went there with his family for summer vacation, he says there are alot of hotels and nightclubs and shit, besides that there is a beach which is an ideal place they could profit from legitimately...
Your friend is right. There are many hotels, nightclubs, casinos, etc... there. The over-whelming majority of them are built by the mafia.

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Unread post by AlbaniaUnited » August 30th, 2008, 12:05 pm

Thewestside, where in Italy are you from?

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Unread post by razbojnik » August 30th, 2008, 12:11 pm

AlbaniaUnited wrote:
razbojnik wrote:
RONNIE wrote:Careful, guys. AlbaniaUnited = JohnnyRed - Since no ones took him serious anymore he uses a new name to post his propaganda!
I thought the same, but it doesn't sound like him....

Look at his last post, does Johnny write like that?


No he doesn't because he is a twelve year-old different kid. Also Ronnie from what I have been reading in past posts you seemed like you posted propaganda along side JohnnyRed at one point.


I know Johnny is a little fucked in the head. He told me he was 16 when I asked him I think he's 12 though I acted the same way when I was 12...

You seem to know your stuff though. Good job. :D

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Unread post by razbojnik » August 30th, 2008, 12:13 pm

AlbaniaUnited wrote:
razbojnik wrote:
AlbaniaUnited wrote:Durres
My friend went there with his family for summer vacation, he says there are alot of hotels and nightclubs and shit, besides that there is a beach which is an ideal place they could profit from legitimately...
Your friend is right. There are many hotels, nightclubs, casinos, etc... there. The over-whelming majority of them are built by the mafia.
Ahh those cities being built by mafia stories...

It happened with Miami, with Las vegas, hell even with Mississauga. It's not unusual that they built this stuff. Nightclubs have been long associated with mobsters in the Balkans, it's a sterotype alot of youth take up here...

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Unread post by AlbaniaUnited » August 30th, 2008, 2:13 pm

I know Johnny is a little #%@& in the head. He told me he was 16 when I asked him I think he's 12 though I acted the same way when I was 12...

You seem to know your stuff though. Good job. :D
Well thank you that actually means something coming from someone who portrayed himself to be a racist against all Albanians until recently. I'm guessing you live in Macedonia? What city?

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Unread post by thewestside » August 30th, 2008, 2:40 pm

AlbaniaUnited wrote:Thewestside, where in Italy are you from?
Why do you assume I am from Italy? I'm born and raised in the United States and don't have a drop of Italian blood in me.

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thewestside wrote:
AlbaniaUnited wrote:Thewestside, where in Italy are you from?
Why do you assume I am from Italy? I'm born and raised in the United States and don't have a drop of Italian blood in me.

My bad, really? Well, I only assumed that you were Italian because you know a lot about them and it seems you always defend them if some one is to talk badly about them.

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AlbaniaUnited wrote:My bad, really? Well, I only assumed that you were Italian because you know a lot about them and it seems you always defend them if some one is to talk badly about them.
That's the difference between me and somebody like JohnnyRed. I don't have an agenda here. I'm not interested in hyping up any particular group because I happen to share the same ethnicity. I'm simply concerned with the facts as they stand.

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Unread post by Grinch » August 31st, 2008, 8:46 am

No he doesn't because he is a twelve year-old different kid. Also Ronnie from what I have been reading in past posts you seemed like you posted propaganda along side JohnnyRed at one point.[/quote]



I know Johnny is a little #%@& in the head. He told me he was 16 when I asked him I think he's 12 though I acted the same way when I was 12...

You seem to know your stuff though. Good job. :D[/quote]

WTF is this video about???

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Unread post by razbojnik » September 1st, 2008, 1:15 pm

That's me annoying my Grandma. It's a historical viewpoint of the socio-economic gangster stereotype of the inner household within the Balkans, with the theological touch of Hindiusm.

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razbojnik wrote:That's me annoying my Grandma. It's a historical viewpoint of the socio-economic gangster stereotype of the inner household within the Balkans, with the theological touch of Hindiusm.
Damn, that was disturbing video. Why you teased your grandma like that?

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punamusta wrote:
razbojnik wrote:That's me annoying my Grandma. It's a historical viewpoint of the socio-economic gangster stereotype of the inner household within the Balkans, with the theological touch of Hindiusm.
Damn, that was disturbing video. Why you teased your grandma like that?
That's disturbing? HAHAH! Your kidding, right?

It's a joke, she knows it, I know it. No harm meant. I've also done worse to the point where she would freak out(WHAT DO YOU WANT?!?) every time I tired to talk her. Heh waking her up 15 times in one night LOL..

LOL one time I remember she embarrased me on the fact I can't sleep in my underwear so I got pissed so I punched her in the stomach, and she just went into the other room, and after awhile laying on my bed, I got a little worried if she died or something so I went to check on her she was sleeping.

Then LOL once I woke her up and you know there is this table beside the bed, LOL she was sleepy so she pressed her hand against the table and the table fell along with everything on it, and she just made a painful grunting sound while I laughed my ass off. Another time she just fell off the bed like that. The look on her face was like she went crazy, it was priceless. I got scared here too HAHAH...

So I figured I went too far that she was gonna die of a heart attack soon if I didn't stop, so I stopped.

I love her. :D

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Unread post by razbojnik » September 1st, 2008, 1:55 pm

You think that's disturbing? So what they did to me was basically a walk in the park? WTF?!?!? No what they did to me is a horror movie compared to this......

Eh. Anyways, back on topic:

BMW X6. White one. That's his car. The security guy at Ice nightclub. Fucker tried to steal my 50 dinars, he didn't give me the ticket. I got the ticket, went in, the place was packed. You should see how many gangster types I saw in there. It's so obvious it's just sad and exciting at the same time. Just them passing by your table spells: LOUD.

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Unread post by AlbaniaUnited » September 1st, 2008, 3:18 pm

Anyone else has a 'gangster' city they have information about?

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AlbaniaUnited wrote:Anyone else has a 'gangster' city they have information about?
Not alot of people are involved with these guys enough to give you solid information.

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AlbaniaUnited wrote:Anyone else has a 'gangster' city they have information about?
Not alot of people are involved with these guys enough to give you solid information.

No Actually its. "There not suppose to disclose that information ANYWAY." Hense, why its ORGANIZED CRIME.

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youngspade wrote:
razbojnik wrote:
AlbaniaUnited wrote:Anyone else has a 'gangster' city they have information about?
Not alot of people are involved with these guys enough to give you solid information.

No Actually its. "There not suppose to disclose that information ANYWAY." Hense, why its ORGANIZED CRIME.
Bingo.

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[quote="razbojnik"][quote="youngspade"][quote="razbojnik"][quote="AlbaniaUnited"]Anyone else has a 'gangster' city they have information about?

Not alot of people are involved with these guys enough to give you solid information.


No Actually its. "There not suppose to disclose that information ANYWAY." Hense, why its ORGANIZED CRIME.

Bingo.


Standing OVATION?



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No you deserve a friggin trophey.

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Hamilton Ontario- Rocco Perri. One of the most prominent Canadian bootleggers of the era, Calabrian Mob Boss according to wikipedia and other online sources, though I'm not aware as to the validity of that. Disappeared 1944, still no body found.

Hamilton is also home to Walter Stadnick, former National head of the Hells Angels.

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