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'Russian Mafia' Abroad Now 300,000 Strong, Journal Says

Unread post by VsichkoEBosh » March 10th, 2010, 11:59 pm

'Russian Mafia' Abroad Now 300,000 Strong, Journal Says
02 March 2010
By Paul Goble
VIENNA — After avoiding any use of the term “Russian mafia” in the last few years, law enforcement personnel in Europe and elsewhere are now speaking about it again, noting that it includes “up to 300,000 people” and dominates the criminal world in many countries around the world, according to a Moscow investigative journalist.
In Monday's Versiya, Ruslan Gorevoy says law enforcement personnel in many countries — including Spain, Greece, Hungary, Italy, France, Mexico “and even the United States” — have been surprised by how “confidently” criminal groups consisting of people from the former Soviet Union now dominate their national criminal worlds.

Indeed, the Versiya report continues, the Russian groups, which include “up to 300,000 of our compatriots,” have succeeded in pushing aside local groups and establishing their own “spheres of influence” to the point that they no longer need to “clarify relations with the help of arms.”

Gorevoy describes some of the most notorious cases involving Russian organized criminal groups abroad before using interviews with Russian officials to suggest some more general conclusions. He recalls the discovery that drug traffickers were using submarines to move their product from South America to Mexico.

These submarines, he points out, “were purchased as scrap metal” from a Ukrainian firm that was involved in decommissioning Soviet diesel subs, then repapered in the Romania city of Konstanza before sailing across the Atlantic. While they were ultimately discovered, it is impossible to say how many tons of drugs they carried or even what the situation is today.

The U.S. Navy, he notes, has taken great pride in reporting its interdiction efforts in this regard, but knowing the abilities of Russian criminal groups, Gorvey continues, “it is possible” that such vessels may still be playing a role. The tone of his article suggests that he personally would not bet against these groups.

In Spain, he explains, Russian criminal groups control 90 percent of the drugs and illegal arms flows and were involved in the murder of Paddy Doyle, a leading Irish criminal who was operating there. His death and the ensuing trial led to the publication of numerous articles about Russian organized crime.

Russian officials have been dismissive of much of that coverage. Pavel Krasheninnikov, the head of the Duma’s legal affairs committee, told Gorevoy that “certain groups may have an ethnic character [there], but this still does not provide the foundation for claims about the presence of a specific national mafia of this or that country.”

Poland, Gorevoy continues, was “the first country of Europe into which organized crime from Russia began to penetrate,” pushing out — together with criminals from Ukraine and Belarus — Romanian and Albanian criminal organizations that had dominated the situation there before the Russians arrived.

The Polish police have not been able to “liquidate” Russian organized crime, and “according to certain data, at the present time” there are as many as 20,000 Russian criminals operating in that country, making it, in numerical terms at least, “the largest Russian criminal diaspora in the world.”

But it would be a mistake to focus only on Poland or Eastern European countries like Romania and Hungary, where the Russian criminal presence is large. Over the last decade, the Russian mafia has reached around the world, including Australia ,where it has been involved in electronic crime, Singapore, London and various countries in the Western hemisphere.

Interpol, the international police agency, does not maintain the kind of files that allow for an even approximate assessment of the number of Russian criminals operating abroad. But last year, the National Prosecutor of Italy concluded that there are “up to 300,000” criminals from Russia operating in other countries.

One of the largest or at least most profitable activities of Russian criminals abroad, the Italians said, is money laundering, with the Russian mafia “laundering” funds in the United States, Marianas and Guam. In addition, they added, Russian criminals are charging Mexican drug lords 30 percent for laundering drug profits from sales in the United States.

In Italy itself, prosecutors reported, “representatives of the Russian mafia in 2008 formed an alliance with local [criminal groups, including the Cosa Nostra]” and took under joint control “practically 100 percent of the agricultural enterprises of Italy and at the same time practically all shippers, both international and domestic.”

The German newspaper Suddeutsche Zeitung reports, citing sources official and otherwise, that there are approximately 160,000 Russian criminals in Europe, compared to 70,000 of Italian origin, 40,000 of American background and 37,000 from Asian countries. The Russians have corrupted at least some officials in order to cover their tracks, the paper said

The Munich paper’s Rudolph Himelli said that “Russian mafiosi are better organized and permit themselves to commit the boldest crimes, remaining in practice unpunished,” crimes that are “of a completely different order of magnitude than those committed by Turkish immigrants or criminals from countries in Eastern Europe,” including illegal arms sales to Libya and Iraq.

Vladimir Zhirinovsky, the flamboyant head of the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia and vice speaker of the Duma, says that none of this information justifies any suggestion that there is a Russian mafia operating abroad let alone implying that Moscow is somehow responsible for it.

“Yes,” Zhirinovsky acknowledges, “people from the republics of the former USSR really occupy an important position in the international criminal community, and in recent years this position can even be called a dominant one. But here is one ‘but’: Many of these people already have been living abroad for a long time” and have exchanged Russian passports for foreign ones.

Consequently, he continues, they are now “more the representatives of Western and not our culture.” Indeed, the LDPR leader insists, “the fact that these people left Russia may testify only that our law enforcement organs do not allow them to make their way” in their homeland, while the police in other countries are not as successful.

That argument may convince some Russians or provide a justification to some in the West who would like to ignore this issue, but Gorevoy’s article suggests that Zhirinovsky’s claims will not be persuasive to justice officials in Europe or elsewhere who on a daily basis have to combat a larger and more active Russian mafia.

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/columns/1 ... 00786.html

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Re: 'Russian Mafia' Abroad Now 300,000 Strong, Journal Says

Unread post by DutchGangster69 » March 11th, 2010, 7:25 pm

Any articles of russian mafia in the netherlands?

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DutchGangster69 wrote:Any articles of russian mafia in the netherlands?
Two Russian women, Masha and Irina, have come forward to tell their stories of being trafficked into prostitution in Germany.

Both women are educated professionals: Masha is a lawyer; Irina is an engineer and an accountant. Both left Russia for Germany with the promise of employment as either a housekeeper or waitress. Masha was seeking an opportunity to see the world and learn a new language; Irina was in debt and wanted a better paying job.

Their stories are typical trafficking stories: When they arrived in Germany, they were met by members of the Russian mafia; their passports were taken away; and they were informed that the jobs they expected didn’t exist and they would be prostitutes instead. They were told it was futile to resist and that the police would not help them because the pimps worked under police protection.

Irina resisted and was beaten. She was shown photographs of dead, mutilated women who tried to go to the police. The mafia had locations where thugs beat and sometimes killed uncooperative women. Irina fearfully decided to cooperate and earn enough money to pay off the debt the Russian mafia claimed she owed. Masha also decided to be compliant, going so far as to feign disappointment when a man chose another woman for sex, while she waited for an opportunity to escape.

The pimps sent Masha and three other Russian women to a bar called “Savoy” near Bielefeld, Germany. They learned they were replacements for Russian women who had been murdered there. When they arrived they found the clothes, underwear, and purses of the murdered women.

Masha was trafficked to Germany before prostitution was legalized in 2002, and police were still carrying out raids. Masha was twice arrested in police raids. But instead of being rescued and provided with services, the police released her onto the street with no money and no references for shelters or services. The first time, she and the other women naively returned to the bar to pick-up their belongings. The Russian mafia was immediately tipped off about their return. They were recaptured and Masha was sold to another pimp. The second club was raided and again she was detained by police. And once again, she was released with no assistance, shelter, or information. She ended up back under the control of a pimp.

German police had two opportunities to identify Masha as a victim of trafficking and failed both times. Since the legalization of prostitution, police have fewer reasons to investigate brothels, and victims have fewer opportunities to receive assistance.

After being sold twice, Masha’s mental health deteriorated. She stopped eating and threatened to commit suicide by jumping from a fourth-floor window. The pimp, fearing that such an incident would draw attention to his operation, and probably realizing that her usefulness to him was over, sent her back to Russia.

Irina was trafficked to Germany after prostitution was legalized, and she was placed in a legal brothel in Breman. Irina said that women in the legal brothel were trafficked and did not have access to their documents — either the original ones or the fake ones the mafia charged them for. The pimps regularly reminded the women that they knew where their families lived and would kill their children if they tried to escape.

In the club where Irina was held, she observed women being sold to different pimps destined for Belgium and the Netherlands, where prostitution is legal. Eventually, she was sent to a club called “Diplomat” in the Netherlands. While there she observed the pimps working with the Russian mafia regularly to supply women to the brothels. During the move, 2,000 euros were added to her debt for a fake Lithuanian passport. She said, “I saw right away that no matter how many men there were, I could never repay the debts.”

Irina decided to escape. Another Russian woman, Tatiana, who was being held captive by threat of harm to her two-year-old son back in Russia, helped her by stealing her fake passport from the pimps. Irina fled. She later learned that Tatiana was murdered for helping her escape.

Irina was assisted by local people, but the Russian mafia continued to track her, threatening to kill her. She was moved from place to place, and worked as a hostess and waitress, but no longer forced into prostitution. After hiding in a garage for two weeks, she decided to go to the police. At the Dutch police station, she was immediately arrested for having a false passport. Although she gave the Dutch police all the information she had about the Russian traffickers, they continued to treat her as the criminal. Over the course of two years, she moved from a jail, to a shelter, back to prison for failure to pay the fine for having a fake passport. In frustration, she went on a hunger strike in prison. They put her in solitary confinement with only a mattress on the floor. They never arrested the traffickers or pimps.

Finally, Irina’s daughter contacted the Angel Coalition, an anti-trafficking coalition and service provider in Russia, which assisted her in getting out of prison. The police released her and refused to help her get to the Russian consulate.

On June 14, Masha and Irina testified about their experiences being trafficked to Germany before the U.S. House International Relations Committee. While the women were testifying a representative from the German embassy distributed a statement to the press defending their efforts to combat trafficking.

Irina concluded, “I did not commit any crime in those countries and I was put in prison [in the Netherlands] for absolutely nothing. The people who involved me in that situation are still free and continue to traffic women under government cover.” Irina returned to Russia several months ago and is still trying to cope with the terrible things she went through in Germany and the Netherlands.

Masha summed up her experience by saying, “It seem like we Russian women are placed in impossible economic conditions and are not needed by our own country. In other countries, we are spit on as prostitutes when we are really victims. Ten years have passed since I was trafficked, but the situation has still not changed. Is the German government really not aware of what is happening in their country? Or are they happy to profit from our suffering?”

Germany’s legal sex industry is estimated to make $18 billion annually. Little of this money goes to the mostly foreign women who are exploited by the pimps and city governments. The government acknowledges that there are 400,000 women in prostitution in Germany. The German Women’s Council estimated that an additional 40,000 women would be brought into Germany to “service” the male fans attending the World Cup. Although the exact number is impossible to know, a ten-percent increase is not an unreasonable estimate.

Following international outrage over city-government involvement in setting up brothels and accommodating the pimps for the World Cup games, the German police claim they are carrying out checks of documents in brothels, but are not finding an increase in trafficking.

Yet, at the end of May, police in Latvia arrested a man suspected of selling women to German brothels. Six women were sent to five different brothels. The trafficker was paying $130 for each woman delivered to him. He then received $520 for each woman from the German brothel. They were recruiting women among known prostitutes, which makes it harder to prove they are victims of trafficking, because people often claim “they knew what they were getting into.”

And now that the World Cup games are underway, Solowodi, the Catholic charity in Berlin, says they have already received calls from victims, and clinics are putting them in touch with trafficked victims.

The spotlight is on Germany and its policy of “sex work.” Over the next few weeks and months, we will learn more about what happens to women in the prostitution industry there. I predict that the 2006 World Cup in Germany will be a turning point for the global abolitionist movement, as people, including those who truly thought that legalization was better for women, are faced with the degrading monster they have created.

just typical shit

http://article.nationalreview.com/28321 ... a-m-hughes

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Re: 'Russian Mafia' Abroad Now 300,000 Strong, Journal Says

Unread post by ViciousRidah » July 9th, 2011, 7:36 pm

Are these 300,000 russian mobsters official members and not affiliates?

This is just the estimate for Europe alone, either way Russian mobsters are very widespread.

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Re: 'Russian Mafia' Abroad Now 300,000 Strong, Journal Says

Unread post by Faciulina » July 10th, 2011, 6:09 am

Are these 300,000 russian mobsters official members and not affiliates?
do u really take these numbers seriously??
the article is obviously full of shit it claims there are russian mafia in italy and mexica and it's totally fake LOL

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Unread post by Quepolo3 » July 10th, 2011, 10:17 am

@VsichkoEBosh - appreciate the Article.
@Faciulina- Why do you say that? What parts do you think are B.S. just curious. Appreciate your insight!

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Unread post by Faciulina » July 10th, 2011, 11:04 am

Why do you say that? What parts do you think are B.S. just curious. Appreciate your insight!
i think most of it is just BS just read this sentence ...that there are approximately 160,000 Russian criminals in Europe, compared to 70,000 of Italian origin, 40,000 of American background and 37,000 from Asian countries... that contradicts even the hype source claiming there are 300.000 russian gangsters abroad
and this is just ridiculous... In Monday's Versiya, Ruslan Gorevoy says law enforcement personnel in many countries — including Spain, Greece, Hungary, Italy, France, Mexico “and even the United States” — have been surprised by how “confidently” criminal groups consisting of people from the former Soviet Union now dominate their national criminal worlds...
since there are not any russian mafia in italy and mexico for sure, i dpn't know france and others but it's by far weaker than the article claim

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Unread post by Babmuk » October 24th, 2011, 5:34 am

2 FACIULINA-U GOT A REAL PROBLEM BOY,U SHOULD GO AND CHECK YOURSELF AT PSYCHIATRIST OFFICE SO HE COULD GIVE U SOME PILLS TO CALM U DOWN!!!!u WATCHED I GUESS ALL THE MOVIES WHERE THE MAFIA AT,U'VE READ LIKE 70-80% ABOUT ITALIAN MAFIA ARTICLES AND BOOKS AND U ARE AMAZED BY THOSE GUYS!!!POOR U!!!IN 10-20 YEARS WHEN U'LL GROW UP WITH A GOD'S HELP I HOPE U'LL C AND SOMEHOW UNDERSTAND WHATS THE MAFIA IS...THEY ARE NOT GOOD GUYS-PEEERIIIOOODD!!!!!SINCE CHILDHOOD THROUGH MY FATHER I'VE MET SOME HIGH RANKING MAFIA GUYS,AND AS NOW I REMEMBER NOTHING GOOD OR INTELLIGENT I'VE LEARNED FROM THOSE PPL.WTF IS YOUR PROBLEM THEIR MOTTO "YOU'LL DIE TODAY AND ME-ONLY TOMORROW,LIKE U DIE FIRST...."D-O Y-O-U G-E-T I-T B-O-Y?DAMM LIKE I OR ESPECIALLY U CARE IF THERE ARE 300 000 OR 500 000 ACTIVE MEMBERS,DO YOU?YOU WOULD BE HAPPY TO KNOW EXACT NUMBER?I GUESS SO....EVERYTHING IS ALREADY SPLIT UP WHO GETS' SOMETHING FROM SOME KINDA THING...LIKE SOME GENERALS CONTRL GAS AND OIL SOME NATURE RESOURSES-AND RUSSIA IS REALLY RICH BY IT'S RESOURSES!!!SOMEONE HAS CITY UNDER HIS WING,SOME GENERALS ARE TRUE TO THE OLD LAW AND SITTING AND CONTROLLING PENETANTIARY AND PPL WHO LIVES THEIR,THEY R DECIDING THOSE PPL DESTINIES,,WOULD BE FUN TO C U FACIULINA THAT SOME GENERAL WOULD C IN YUR FACE OR FIGURE SOMETHING GIRLY HE'LL SAY TO THE GUYS TO FOCK YOU!!THEY WILL BE HOLDING YOUR LEGS ND HANDS SO EVEN IF U'LL TRY TO MOVE U WILL NOT MOVE A BIT.PPL WHO SITTING THERE FOR 10 OR MORE YEARS GOT NTHING TO DO MOST OF THE TIME SO IN RUSSIA ENOUGH OF PPL DOING LET'S CALL IT "PIERCING".THEY MAKE THEIR DICKS TO STAND COME TO A "DOCTOR" AND PUTTING THE DICKS ON THE TABLE HE'S TAKING IT AND PUTTING IN A RIGHT POSITION AND WITH A PIECE OF RAZOR DOING THE CUT AND QUICK ENTERING "BALLS" FROM BLASTICK BUT NOT IN THE SHAPE OF BALL MORE LIKE LONGER IN LENGHTS,SOMEONE DOING 2 OF THOSE PIERCINGS IF THEY GOT REALLY HUGE DICKS...AND THEN THEY WILL THEA YOUR AZZ TO A SOMETHING THAT U DIDN'T C IN ANY PORN MOVIE,THEN U'LL GET ANY GIRL NAME AND BE DOING WHAETEVERPPL WANT FROM U,BUT FR A PRICE LMAO,LIKE I SOULD WANT TO FOCK U I'LL GIVE U A BAG OF TEA OR ANY OTHER THINGS,,SO U'LL LIVE THEIR VERY WELL...BECAUZE OF YOUR DAMM MOUTH!!!MAFIA THIS-MAFIA THAT..BLA BLA BLA...ALL THE TIME I COME HERE TO C SOME INFO I C U,U REALLY ANNOYED ME WITH ALL THAT MAFIA CRAP TALK.PLUS I'LL MAKE SMT THAT U SHOULD BE AMAZED OF-I'LL GIVE U A PIECE OF INFO...YES RUSSIAN MAFIA ARE DOING LEGAL BUISENESS IN ITALY,AND ITALIANS GOT SOME INTERESTS IN RUSSIA.

2ALL-IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY GANGSTERS OUTTHERE IN RUSSIA OR ANY OTHER COUNTRY,THE 1 THING THAT MATTERS IT'S NOT TO BE ON THEIR WAY.I GUESS EVEN IN GANGS THERE ARE PSYCHOS,SO IN MAFIA 2...JUST TO TORTURE U SO PROFESSINALLY LONG AND PAINFULLY THAT U WOULD WISH FOR A DEATH,I'M SAYING THAT JUST TO EXPLAIN U PPL ON THIS FORUM EVEN IF U R AN OG AND READING THIS STUFF----------YOUR LIFE DOESN'T WORTH FOR THEM A DIME!!!!!

AFTER I WROTE NOW THIS DON'T THINK ABOUT ME THINK ABOUT WHAT MAFIA STANDS FOR AND WHO ARE THEY!!!HAVING BILLIONS OF DOLLARS SITTING IN A LIMO GENERAL MIGHT STOP AT TRAFFIC LIGHT WHERE U'LL BE ASKING FOR FOOD,IF U'L CATCH HIS ATTENTION HE COULD DO 3 THING-SPIT ON YOU,GIVE U A MONEY OR JUST KEP DRIVING.


SOOOOOOO THEY ARE NOT PPL TOO BE PROUD OF,BUT IT'S GOOD TO FEEL THAT THEY ARE WATCHING YOUR BACK-THAT'S IT :evil:

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Re: 'Russian Mafia' Abroad Now 300,000 Strong, Journal Says

Unread post by VsichkoEBosh » December 26th, 2011, 10:32 pm

Faciulina wrote:
Why do you say that? What parts do you think are B.S. just curious. Appreciate your insight!
i think most of it is just BS just read this sentence ...that there are approximately 160,000 Russian criminals in Europe, compared to 70,000 of Italian origin, 40,000 of American background and 37,000 from Asian countries... that contradicts even the hype source claiming there are 300.000 russian gangsters abroad
and this is just ridiculous... In Monday's Versiya, Ruslan Gorevoy says law enforcement personnel in many countries — including Spain, Greece, Hungary, Italy, France, Mexico “and even the United States” — have been surprised by how “confidently” criminal groups consisting of people from the former Soviet Union now dominate their national criminal worlds...
since there are not any russian mafia in italy and mexico for sure, i dpn't know france and others but it's by far weaker than the article claim
Where the fuck do you get your numbers? Honestly?
Babmuk wrote:2 FACIULINA-U GOT A REAL PROBLEM BOY,U SHOULD GO AND CHECK YOURSELF AT PSYCHIATRIST OFFICE SO HE COULD GIVE U SOME PILLS TO CALM U DOWN!!!!u WATCHED I GUESS ALL THE MOVIES WHERE THE MAFIA AT,U'VE READ LIKE 70-80% ABOUT ITALIAN MAFIA ARTICLES AND BOOKS AND U ARE AMAZED BY THOSE GUYS!!!POOR U!!!IN 10-20 YEARS WHEN U'LL GROW UP WITH A GOD'S HELP I HOPE U'LL C AND SOMEHOW UNDERSTAND WHATS THE MAFIA IS...THEY ARE NOT GOOD GUYS-PEEERIIIOOODD!!!!!SINCE CHILDHOOD THROUGH MY FATHER I'VE MET SOME HIGH RANKING MAFIA GUYS,AND AS NOW I REMEMBER NOTHING GOOD OR INTELLIGENT I'VE LEARNED FROM THOSE PPL.WTF IS YOUR PROBLEM THEIR MOTTO "YOU'LL DIE TODAY AND ME-ONLY TOMORROW,LIKE U DIE FIRST...."D-O Y-O-U G-E-T I-T B-O-Y?DAMM LIKE I OR ESPECIALLY U CARE IF THERE ARE 300 000 OR 500 000 ACTIVE MEMBERS,DO YOU?YOU WOULD BE HAPPY TO KNOW EXACT NUMBER?I GUESS SO....EVERYTHING IS ALREADY SPLIT UP WHO GETS' SOMETHING FROM SOME KINDA THING...LIKE SOME GENERALS CONTRL GAS AND OIL SOME NATURE RESOURSES-AND RUSSIA IS REALLY RICH BY IT'S RESOURSES!!!SOMEONE HAS CITY UNDER HIS WING,SOME GENERALS ARE TRUE TO THE OLD LAW AND SITTING AND CONTROLLING PENETANTIARY AND PPL WHO LIVES THEIR,THEY R DECIDING THOSE PPL DESTINIES,,WOULD BE FUN TO C U FACIULINA THAT SOME GENERAL WOULD C IN YUR FACE OR FIGURE SOMETHING GIRLY HE'LL SAY TO THE GUYS TO FOCK YOU!!THEY WILL BE HOLDING YOUR LEGS ND HANDS SO EVEN IF U'LL TRY TO MOVE U WILL NOT MOVE A BIT.PPL WHO SITTING THERE FOR 10 OR MORE YEARS GOT NTHING TO DO MOST OF THE TIME SO IN RUSSIA ENOUGH OF PPL DOING LET'S CALL IT "PIERCING".THEY MAKE THEIR DICKS TO STAND COME TO A "DOCTOR" AND PUTTING THE DICKS ON THE TABLE HE'S TAKING IT AND PUTTING IN A RIGHT POSITION AND WITH A PIECE OF RAZOR DOING THE CUT AND QUICK ENTERING "BALLS" FROM BLASTICK BUT NOT IN THE SHAPE OF BALL MORE LIKE LONGER IN LENGHTS,SOMEONE DOING 2 OF THOSE PIERCINGS IF THEY GOT REALLY HUGE DICKS...AND THEN THEY WILL THEA YOUR AZZ TO A SOMETHING THAT U DIDN'T C IN ANY PORN MOVIE,THEN U'LL GET ANY GIRL NAME AND BE DOING WHAETEVERPPL WANT FROM U,BUT FR A PRICE LMAO,LIKE I SOULD WANT TO FOCK U I'LL GIVE U A BAG OF TEA OR ANY OTHER THINGS,,SO U'LL LIVE THEIR VERY WELL...BECAUZE OF YOUR DAMM MOUTH!!!MAFIA THIS-MAFIA THAT..BLA BLA BLA...ALL THE TIME I COME HERE TO C SOME INFO I C U,U REALLY ANNOYED ME WITH ALL THAT MAFIA CRAP TALK.PLUS I'LL MAKE SMT THAT U SHOULD BE AMAZED OF-I'LL GIVE U A PIECE OF INFO...YES RUSSIAN MAFIA ARE DOING LEGAL BUISENESS IN ITALY,AND ITALIANS GOT SOME INTERESTS IN RUSSIA.

2ALL-IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY GANGSTERS OUTTHERE IN RUSSIA OR ANY OTHER COUNTRY,THE 1 THING THAT MATTERS IT'S NOT TO BE ON THEIR WAY.I GUESS EVEN IN GANGS THERE ARE PSYCHOS,SO IN MAFIA 2...JUST TO TORTURE U SO PROFESSINALLY LONG AND PAINFULLY THAT U WOULD WISH FOR A DEATH,I'M SAYING THAT JUST TO EXPLAIN U PPL ON THIS FORUM EVEN IF U R AN OG AND READING THIS STUFF----------YOUR LIFE DOESN'T WORTH FOR THEM A DIME!!!!!

AFTER I WROTE NOW THIS DON'T THINK ABOUT ME THINK ABOUT WHAT MAFIA STANDS FOR AND WHO ARE THEY!!!HAVING BILLIONS OF DOLLARS SITTING IN A LIMO GENERAL MIGHT STOP AT TRAFFIC LIGHT WHERE U'LL BE ASKING FOR FOOD,IF U'L CATCH HIS ATTENTION HE COULD DO 3 THING-SPIT ON YOU,GIVE U A MONEY OR JUST KEP DRIVING.


SOOOOOOO THEY ARE NOT PPL TOO BE PROUD OF,BUT IT'S GOOD TO FEEL THAT THEY ARE WATCHING YOUR BACK-THAT'S IT :evil:
I didn't read that but I agree with you.

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