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the Yakuza

Unread post by Ykz_hapa_girl » January 11th, 2004, 10:55 pm

Does anyone know if there are many ties from the Yakuza here in america, or even more specifically, SoCal?

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Re: the Yakuza

Unread post by wattscrackin » January 12th, 2004, 1:14 am

the yakuza supposed to be the craziest gang in the world, they more violent then any other gang or organization, even more violent then the russian mafia


the Yakuza dont play, i know they is from Japan, ya'll betta ax somebody

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Unread post by wcrockets » January 12th, 2004, 11:34 am

http://w1.313.telia.com/~u31302275/yakuza.htm

Yakuza are on west coast managing their interests there. This includes Hawaii where they are active. They are arrayed as organized crime families though labeled organized crime groups. Their biggest scams are in this order: Gambling, Sex Trade, Extortion/laundering/taking over businesses, and drugs. They are known on the west coast to have a history of importing women to be "dancers" "singers" "entertainers" etc.. and then keeping their Visas and forcing them into prostitution. Pretty dark stuff if you ask me.

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Unread post by Ykz_hapa_girl » January 12th, 2004, 6:07 pm

Thanks for the info!

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Re: the Yakuza

Unread post by juniorx » February 10th, 2004, 10:37 pm

From what ive read about the Yakuza they r the Most Feared and Violent gang on the Earth ..Crazier yet just as organized as Triads and Russian mafia.. to be Crazy and Violent yet stay in chekk cant be Easy...

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Unread post by js83 » March 5th, 2004, 10:59 pm

i dunno if they are crazier then the russian mob or the triads cuz they are pretty crazy too...the yakuza has so much power..that even the japanese government can't do anything bout em...and they are also koo with the police...and even politians...so yea.

now they have many different families..but i heard the biggest one has like 20,000 heads...and thats just ONE family...outta like hundreds...

another crazy thing bout these azn mafia's is that, if u mess with one, they gonna kill u, then go after your family, friends, etc. just ruthless.

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Unread post by juniorx » March 6th, 2004, 12:14 am

i dont know if its triads or yakuza.. but one of them Kills your Whole Family and leave u alive.. let u kill yourself.. and the majority of people would kill themselves once there whole family has been slaughtered.. thats just crazy..

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Unread post by myDick in your mouth » April 9th, 2004, 10:48 pm

Asian organized crime families are sick f*cks, no doubt. They do the most f*cked up sh*t outta everyone

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Unread post by mista_shadow » April 11th, 2004, 11:40 pm

i know a few people with ties to the yakuza and from they have told me these guys redefine the term "dont f*** with us" no set anywhere will last a week in war with them these are some very hardcore killers i would rather be hunted by every set in southern califas than those guys for real

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Unread post by juniorx » April 12th, 2004, 1:06 am

Yakuza aint one big gang Homie.. so when u say no set would last a week.. ur wrong.. some Yakuza may only have 10's of members.. not even 100's or 1000's.. so "redefine" ur post homie..

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JuniorX wrote:From what ive read about the Yakuza they r the Most Feared and Violent gang on the Earth ..Crazier yet just as organized as Triads and Russian mafia.. to be Crazy and Violent yet stay in chekk cant be Easy...
From what i've read online the triads seem to have the upper hand in japan and Vladivostok russia.



Triads tighten grip on Russia's far east
By Bertil Lintner

As Chinese Triads in Vladivostok take over the reins of organised crime from Russian groups, Bertil Lintner examines the changing face of Russia's far east.

Organised crime has always been a problem in Vladivostok and Russia's far east, but the last few years have seen a dramatic increase in the number of Chinese Triad groups operating in the region.

Last year alone, an estimated US$200m was transferred from China to the Russian far east--mostly through the Chinese underground banking system (see box: underground banks)--and invested in casinos, hotels, restaurants, and hostess bars. Large amounts have also been invested in illegal logging and fishing deals, with timber and fish being smuggled to China, Japan and South Korea; costing the government millions of roubles every year in lost revenue.

Russia's Minister for Internal Affairs, Boris Gryzlov, has admitted that the far eastern region has the worst per-person crime rate in the country. However, the streets of Vladivostok appear to be safer and much more orderly today than they were a decade ago, when they were under the control of local crime bosses. Then, smuggling rackets, gambling dens and prostitution rings were rife, and kidnappings, drive-by shootings and car bombings were regular occurrences.

The difference now is that most of the old, flamboyant Russian 'godfathers' are gone--and the Chinese Triads have arrived. They are better organised, more discreet, and they view civil disorder as a threat to their criminal enterprises. According to Vitaly Nomokonov, director of the Centre for the Study of Organised Crime at the Far Eastern State University's Law Institute in Vladivostok, the level of crime carried out by these groups has mushroomed.

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Chinese gangs control many of the casinos in the region (there are more than a dozen gaming establishments in the Vladivostok area), many Chinese restaurants, and even some Russian hotels and eateries. Many small-time Russian gangsters now work for the Chinese syndicates, either as contacts for local business deals or as security guards at the casinos. The nature of the relationship between local Russian criminals and the Chinese crime bosses is not clear, but it seems that the Chinese are far better organised, and therefore have the upper hand.

The only area which the Chinese do not dominate is the local drug trade, which is still in the hands of Tajik, Kazakh, Chechen and other Central Asian criminals, who bring in heroin from Afghanistan. According to the local police, only ephedrine and small quantities of Southeast Asian heroin are smuggled in from China and North Korea. On two occasions--in 1994 and 1999--North Korean intelligence agents and government officials were caught trying to smuggle Southeast Asian heroin and opium into the Vladivostok area.

Many of the leaders of the indigenous Russian organised crime groups that previously dominated the region have been killed in turf wars, while others have gone out of business or died in mysterious circumstances. The last of the city's big Russian crime bosses, Evgeny Petrovich Vasin, nicknamed "Dzhem" ("Jam") died of a heart attack in October 2001. Another Russian had a heart attack in an aircraft when he was flying to Vladivostok to attend Vasins funeral.

Somewhat ironically, says Nomokonov, it was Vasin who first brought mainland Chinese Triads to Vladivostok to counter competitors from European Russia and Central Asia, who had flocked to the area after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991. In the mid-1990s, Vasin paid several visits to Shenyang in Chinas northeastern Liaoning province. His first partner in crime, who later rose to become the main organised crime figure in Vladivostok, was a Chinese known as "Lao the," or "Elder Brother". Lao the already controlled a large part of Vasin's businesses and after his death, he is believed to have discreetly taken over what remained.

Ethnic tension
Large-scale Chinese migration to the Russian far east has made it easier for the Triads to prosper in the region. As a result of Stalins ethnic purges in the 1930s, Vladivostok--once a predominantly Chinese city-- was until recently the only major port city in the Pacific Rim without a Chinese community. Now, Chinese merchants from across the border sell clothes, tools, toys, watches and other cheap consumer goods in a sprawling new market in one of the city's eastern suburbs.

There is still no Chinatown as such in the city. The new immigrants live scattered in the suburbs--or they are concentrated in other far eastern towns such as Ussurijsk and Blagoveshchensk and in the smaller township of Pogranichnyi, where they outnumber the European population.

Facing racial prejudice and the threat of deportation, many choose--or are forced--to work for ethnic Chinese groups linked to the Triads. Local sources in Vladivostok assert that every stall owner in the city's Chinese market has to pay protection money to the gangs. The gangs also arrange for bribes to be paid to some local officials to make sure the vendors are not sent home, as many of them do not have visas.

The problem of cross-border crime and illegal migration was deemed important enough to be highlighted in a joint declaration by Russian president Vladimir Putin and his Chinese counterpart Hu Jintao, that was signed on 27 May. Russia and China agreed to create a joint working group to curb the uncontrolled movement of people across the common border.

The rise in Chinese organised crime and illegal migration have fuelled racist attitudes towards all Chinese, even ordinary businessmen who are actually victimised by the Triads through their protection rackets. Some sources, however, argue that the prevailing perception that Chinese migrants are coming like a 'tidal wave' is grossly exaggerated. In a paper presented to the San Diego State University in January 2001, Russian academic Mikhail Alexseev emphasised that Chinese migration to the Russian far east is not remotely similar to the Chinese presence in New York, San Francisco, or even Moscow.

But threat perceptions are important for local attitudes. After all, there are some 100 million people in Chinas northeastern region, while the population of Russia's far eastern Federal District--an area two-thirds of the size of the USA--is not more than seven million. Even if the number of newly arrived migrants from China did not exceed 200,000, or a mere 3% of the total population--a figure often mentioned in the local press--many locals see it as a trend, and believe that in another decade or two, the numbers could be much higher.

Russia's far east may be too poor to attract huge numbers of migrant workers, who are better off at home in China. But there is plenty of land, and thousands of Chinese farmers have settled in the border areas, where they grow vegetables and other crops.

More importantly, business opportunities abound, especially in the booming underground economy. Although it may be a trickle rather than a flood, Nomokonov called the movement of people across the border "unstoppable" and said that the authorities must make sure is does not "damage Russia's national interests".

How well connected in high places are the Triads is difficult to determine, but enforcing the law, and curbing corruption within the police and local government, has never been easy in this remote corner of Russia. Gryzlov noted that out of 151 bribery cases filed in 2001 and 2002, only 20 made it to court--and, in the end, only one of the suspects received a prison sentence. Late last year, the police actually arrested Lao the and about a dozen of his associates, but the case collapsed, and not one of them was brought to court. The local police are tight-lipped about Lao the and are even unwilling to discuss his existence--which goes a long way to show how influential he has become, and how much "Russia's national interests" have been undermined by the arrival of Chinese organised crime in the Far East.

This article first appeared in Jane's Intelligence Review, September 2003

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Re: the Yakuza

Unread post by NH211 » April 12th, 2004, 3:57 pm

yakuza crazy n shi but i thought the italians were untouchable n yakuza cant take em
like that movie brother
italians too deep

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Unread post by js83 » April 12th, 2004, 6:31 pm

NH211 wrote:yakuza crazy n shi but i thought the italians were untouchable n yakuza cant take em
like that movie brother
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LOL wat the fuk? theres is no gang/mafia that is UNTOUCHABLE...anybody could kill anyone...and i dunno where u get these ideas from...italians may be deep...but the YAKUZAs are deep as well...one family outta literally hundreds in japan has 30,000 heads...thats the biggest one in japan...so imagine how deep they really are if u count all of em. and italians aint the same as it was back in the days...lost lot of power...and i highly doubt that they could fuk with the yakuza, triads, or the russian mob...mafias like yakuza and triads are runnin stuff throughout the world..and they have alot of power. basically they are not to be fucked with.

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Unread post by juniorx » April 12th, 2004, 6:45 pm

agreed js83 on everything u said....

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Unread post by NH211 » April 12th, 2004, 8:58 pm

o i mean in america
italians wouldnt be shi in japan

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Unread post by wcrockets » April 13th, 2004, 10:15 am

Yakuza is so well entrenched they've practically brought Japan to it's knees. Check the relationship between Japan's debt/economic system and the Yakuza to get the story.

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Unread post by mista_shadow » April 13th, 2004, 11:14 pm

junior_x yes im aware their not one big gang and their camilies are spread vastly but i was referring to their numbers as a whole...although the triads are by far the largest in terms of numbers which is not surprising considering china is the most heavily populated country in the world...

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Unread post by juniorx » April 14th, 2004, 12:18 am

the yakuza r more ruthless than triads.. triads represent more business men than killers..

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Unread post by MeyerLansky » May 24th, 2004, 9:42 am

At least up to recent times, the Mafia seems like the "best" (worst? ) crime organization. The Yakuza is up high on the ranking too no doubt, and theyre hell lotta more violent and brutal. And more feared too. But the difference between 'em is, if a mafia family is suffering problems it still has it connections in sicily and the rest of italy to rely on and get back up, while the yakuza in japan is not so keen on helping out the americans yakuza's from what I've heard.. It's like in the early 1900's when there was tensions between sicilian gangsters and american gangsters, feel me?

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Unread post by MeyerLansky » May 24th, 2004, 9:45 am

but John Gotti fu*ked it all up, made the new york families an easy target for the feds.. but theres a new movement in sicily now thats already having contacts high up in the government and are running most of italy and sicily. The old mafia was called "La Cosa Nostra" but this new thing is called "La Cosa Nouva". For the non-italians it means "the new thing", not "Our thing" as cosa nostra meant. And uhm, how long to y'all think that movement will move to the U.S? The Cosa Nouva's are smarter and better organized, they've learned from the mistake of the Cosa Nostras...

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Unread post by C_Ridah253 » June 8th, 2004, 11:16 am

THE YAKUZA SOUND LIKE SOME CRAZY MUH F_CCA`S....ANYBODY KNOW ANY MORE ABOUT THE LA COSA NOUVA..OR WHAT THEY WILL DO WHEN THEY HIT THE U.S.? PM ME

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