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American organized crime groups included traditional groups such as La Cosa Nostra & the Italian Mafia to modern groups such as Black Mafia Family. Discuss the most organized criminal groups in the United States including gangs in Canada.
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MOB WIVES-The Show.

Unread post by mayugastank » April 28th, 2011, 12:43 pm

Do we have any idea as to the mafias view on this show. Graziano was a high ranking member of the Bonanos and his daughter is currently on the show. Karen Gravano daughter of Sammy the Bull Gravano is also on the show and I imagine that the reception to her being back on Staten Island wouldnt be appreciated. The other 2 women husbands have only minute ties to the mafia. What do we know about them WestSide?

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Unread post by ViciousRidah » April 28th, 2011, 4:31 pm

In my opinion it makes these mobsters look like clowns.

1. There's this women who is on the show who was supposed to be sneaking in contraband for her boyfriend in jail,won't that lead to arrest or conspiracy, not the right kind of move at all.

2. It shows wives of mob bosses who are in jail from indictments,associating with mob wives of the same snitches who put them in there.

3. It makes some of these mob associates look to preppy and desperate.

4.It actually displays the business and affairs of the mob wives on television.It also displays the business of their daughters as well.

5. It makes the mob look weak since they are able to be broadcasted on TV, this is worse than the Gotti show,it actually kind of reaffirms how the mob is not as powerful as it used to be.

6.It looks kind of fake also.Are they that desperate for attention.

Staten Island is full of Gumbas and Guidos, I think thats all it was made for.

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Unread post by thewestside » April 28th, 2011, 10:25 pm

mayugastank wrote:Do we have any idea as to the mafias view on this show. Graziano was a high ranking member of the Bonanos and his daughter is currently on the show. Karen Gravano daughter of Sammy the Bull Gravano is also on the show and I imagine that the reception to her being back on Staten Island wouldnt be appreciated. The other 2 women husbands have only minute ties to the mafia. What do we know about them WestSide?
Renee Graziano - her father, Anthony "TG" Graziano, is consigliere of the Bonanno family. He is scheduled to get out of prison in next year. Her ex-husband, Hector Pagan Jr., was a Bonanno associate who was busted for marijuana trafficking about a decade ago and was named as a Colombo associate in the huge mob bust this past January.

Karen Gravano - obviously her father, Sammy "The Bull" Gravano, is the former Gambino underboss. Currently incarcerated.

Drita D'Avanzo - Her husband, Lee D'Avanzo, is part of the burglary crew known as the New Springville Boys. They are sort of a "farm team" for the Colombo and Bonanno families. He's currently in prison too.

Carla Facciolo - Her estranged husband, Joey Ferragamo, was part of a multimillion stock fraud scam involving the Colombo and Lucchese families back in 2005. Also currently incarcerated.

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Unread post by thewestside » April 29th, 2011, 12:35 am

Gotta love this....



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5fbd7GX0mM

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Unread post by mobhistorybuff » April 29th, 2011, 6:29 am

This show is another slap in the face o the italian people , first the jersy shore , jersylious ,new jersy housewives all thse shows make people think that is how all italian people talk and that they are all invovled in the mafia which is not true , the majority of italians are good people , people who fought for our country in all the wars people who work hard ,work long hours and have nice famlies These shows so not represent the majority of italian 's in the usa , the only show i have seen that shows a hard working italian family is cake boss which is also out of new jersy now there is a hard working guy and a family that works together in a buisness that there father left them and they took it to the next level and the next , as far as im concerned MOB WIFE'S is just another show for ratings and for people to have a laugh at these girls acting like nuts on tv , and the show is off at that gravano is not married to a mobster her father samy the bull was the gambino underboss , carla facciolo if im correct her father was a big mobster as well her husband they say is in jail for stock fraud and from all the lists i have seen he is not a made man , same goes for the other girl whos albanian her husband was a bank robber lee davanzo he is not a made member of the mob , and renee graziano her father was the consigler of the bonanno family and did alot of years in jail he's due out of jail next year her husband is just a common crook not a mafia guy maybe he and the other girls husbands may be friends with some real made men but none of the husbands are made men , GRAVANO, GRAZIANO, FACCIOLO There fathers are made mafia men and the other girls are married to criminals not mobsters there is a difference there husbands did not take that oath to the mob did not have there finger pricked and a saint picture burnt in there hand , so the show is way off it should be calle MAIA FATHERS IF ANYTHING and they should have got to more girls with fathers inthe mob which in new york is not hard to do , also all the mob in staten island is there by way of brooklyn they all grew up in brooklyn and moved to staten island thats he only reasn brooklyn is no onger the hub of the mob like it was for decades ,they all moved out to staten island and jersy , so in a nut shell they did a bad job at making the show also. MAYBE SOMEONE WILL CORRECT IT AND CALL IT MOB FATHERS AND replace the girls who are married to common criminals with two ore girls who's fathers are in the mafia , UNREAL . and if im correct carla facciolo 's father was a capo in the luchesse family and was said to be a rat and was killed they shot his eyes out so her dad was no ber=tter then sammy the bukll why are they not mentioning that , and from the reserch i have looked up sammy the bull was a reat buisness man and hardly new john gotti till 1985, even though guys are in the same family does not mean they hang out togethere , gotti reached out to gravano when he wanted to clip castellano because he needed him and his vrew to back him up , and since gravano and frank diccico had there own gripes with big paul they went along , but they said if john did a bad job they were gonna wack him themselves and take over the family and run it the right way , and from what i know they would have sammy the bull wasnot as greedy as gotti and he also made sure all his guys had cash he shared the wealth with his crew , gotti on the other hand beame what castellano was a greedy boss ,so evenif gotti beat jail he would have gotten wacked by his own family a long time ago and gravano or someone like him would have taken over the gambino family that certain , gotti's short era in the spot light made guys think thats what the mob is about , front pages of the papers ,always on the news , and being a celebrity which is all untruths the mob wants to be unknown they do not want anyone to know they are in the mob let alone have there photos in magazines like g.q thats crazy , its an organization that is now going back to the old ways of not being out inthe open o more social clubs no fancy suits but its to ate for now the feds put alot of them away for life and alot of them away for whatever term they got , and made rats out of many made guys , all things that were unherd of in the 1940's and 1950's , gotti made a big mess to be honest and gravano was disgsted with him , there were alot of reasons gravano did what he did that gotti caused , gravano would have never turned if gotti was different , what gotti really wated was to look like the inoent of the two and let sammy take the fall so do not beratethe man uness you walked in his shoes , and one more thing when gravano and other guys were around in the 70's 80's neigborhood guys could get good paying jobs in the unions on the waterront and so on , no more ...

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Unread post by icegoodbarbPresident » June 13th, 2011, 10:38 am

This shows is disgrace and joke
1) No mobwive is married or boyfriend are made members other than graziano and there's an article where it says anthony won't even talk to his daughter anymore.
2) All these guys were low key associates who never even amounted to shit
3) These wives are fighting for attention and talking to snitches daughters, if any of them were real mobsters they would probably be whacked out if there wives were talking to snitches daughters
4) We all agree the mob isn't as powerful anymore but there are still made members and the new york families are better off compared to 10 years ago considering rats etc.
5) Honestly this show does not reflect on the mafia just some assocaites who are probably the lowest ranking guys in their families

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Unread post by thewestside » June 13th, 2011, 9:58 pm

So, if I'm hearing you guys correctly, you're happy that the show just got signed for a second season.....

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Unread post by gornto » June 14th, 2011, 3:37 pm

from the reserch i have looked up sammy the bull was a reat buisness man and hardly new john gotti till 1985
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What? Gravano was Gotti's fucking compare, what are you talkin about?

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Unread post by thewestside » June 16th, 2011, 12:06 am

gornto wrote:
from the reserch i have looked up sammy the bull was a reat buisness man and hardly new john gotti till 1985
???
What? Gravano was Gotti's #%@&#%@ compare, what are you talkin about?
Gotti and Gravano knew each other before they plotted to kill Paul but really on a social basis. They came from different crews in Queens and Brooklyn and were involved in different rackets. Gravano was actually more on the "white collar" side of the family, involved in the construction business, etc. before he grew disillusioned with Paul and sided with Gotti.

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Unread post by mayugastank » June 16th, 2011, 1:08 am

thewestside wrote:So, if I'm hearing you guys correctly, you're happy that the show just got signed for a second season.....

okay cant lie ............it was a show I hated but couldnt stop watching. Its kinda like watching the terrorrists chop off Nick Bergs head. You knew you shouldnt but you couldnt pull your eyes away

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Unread post by gornto » June 21st, 2011, 6:39 pm

Gotti and Gravano knew each other before they plotted to kill Paul but really on a social basis. They came from different crews in Queens and Brooklyn and were involved in different rackets. Gravano was actually more on the "white collar" side of the family, involved in the construction business, etc. before he grew disillusioned with Paul and sided with Gotti.
How is construction "white collar"?

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Unread post by mayugastank » June 22nd, 2011, 1:42 pm

Gravano wasnt actually doing construction he just ran a few construction companies. He was involved heavily in doing union construction work. Those jobs are usually run by local municipalities and taxpayer funded. Their are no limits to the kickbacks and money to be made

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Unread post by gornto » June 23rd, 2011, 11:40 am

Gravano wasnt actually doing construction he just ran a few construction companies. He was involved heavily in doing union construction work. Those jobs are usually run by local municipalities and taxpayer funded. Their are no limits to the kickbacks and money to be made
yeah, i heard the average fee is 2% of the total value of the contract. This shits actually way more common than people think.

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