The Era Of Being HARD?

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The Era Of Being HARD?

Unread post by Common Sense » March 9th, 2004, 6:01 pm

It seems like ever since MTV busted onto the scene, every kid in America wants to be "A Gangsta". Kids that grew up in corn fields, small towns, and everywhere else that forms the cracks and crevises of this country.

Maybe Rap videos helped perpetuate some the glory back in the day. There was a time when only fools in L.A. and other major ghetto cities were saggin' the pants and wearing the gear. After cable T.V., gangsta gear is everywhere. Little snowflakes in the subburbs is now saggin' it and throwin' it up. This was predominantly a "Rock On" community. Gangbangin' to me has taken on two roles nowadays. The first role is the original one, decades of inner city violence, destruction of families and the epidemic of dis-respect toward your family, neighbor, and self.
The second role is the new one. Gangsterism being a glamourized fad. Copy cats all over the country. Can't wait to move to the stix or a un-chattered territory to become the so-called nu-don corleone.

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Re: The Era Of Being HARD?

Unread post by Common Sense » March 9th, 2004, 6:11 pm

You know what else kills me about the era of being hard.


MF's are too hard to speak to one another. The common greeting is gone, especially among black people. Hate to say it, but it's f@@**ing true. Now that I opened that can of worms, so let's go there.

Are we at a point of being so uncivilized that we can no longer say "Good Morning"?

"How are you doing"?

Does eye contact have to be a prescription for death?


Does common greetings always have to be street affiliated with posturing?

Limiting communication is one form of being a$$-out then being extincted.

When you really think about it, don't you think this is some MORONIC IGNORANT Bule-shyt ???

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Re: The Era Of Being HARD?

Unread post by wcrockets » March 9th, 2004, 11:14 pm

The lack of nuclear functional family is the root, modern glorification of gangster culture the branch, and the victim (read the real or wannabe gangster) the leaf.

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Re: The Era Of Being HARD?

Unread post by civil_thor » March 11th, 2004, 2:05 am

A lot of what Common Sense says is true.. Gangs are turning up in places where they never were before. The entertainment industry plants the seed, and migration starts the growth. Somebody who was a nobody in their hood moves to a new area to "get out of trouble" or live with family, whatever. They become the big shot on the block and the locals follow into it. Most of those copycat sets die out before long, but some of them stick around. New sets start up to defend against what's going on.. You just started yourself a gang problem before long.

My area has sets now going back 20 years...That aint stuff for some places, but it's old for here. Now it won't go away.. But like wcrockets said, the family is where it's at. If you don't have strong families, the kids are gonna find that acceptance somewhere else. Middle America is growing up and realizing what bigger cities have long had to contend with. Some of them catch on before it's too late, others don't. I guess the "era of being hard" catches on later in some places than others.

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Re: The Era Of Being HARD?

Unread post by Noog » March 11th, 2004, 10:55 am

I grew up in Northern England - there has been a hard man culture in all the towns and cities of UK, especially the North. When I was a little un, we fought all the time, but with little crews and with fists. We lived to tell our tales. Nowadays things have changed. Here in London its gone from fists, to knives and on to guns. We thought we were hard, but though I took a beating now and then, I lived. We celebrated hard. Now though, with boys being stabbed and shot left, right and centre, I ask what the f-uck is hard about pulling a trigger or stabbing a yout? We saw hard as being a good fighter, quick with yer fists, yer head n yer feet. It breaks my heart to hear of young men being killed by young men time after time. F-ckin miserable waste. I no hard man now, i'm a daddy, a lover not a fighter, but I am devoting my life to helping those yout comin up who are enamoured with the US gangster ting, here in London the Yardie ting. FU_CK HARD MAN CULTURE< ITS A CULTURE OF MISERY< DEFEAT N DEATH

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Re: The Era Of Being HARD?

Unread post by Common Sense » March 14th, 2004, 11:23 am

Noog wrote:I grew up in Northern England - We saw hard as being a good fighter, quick with yer fists, yer head n yer feet.
That is a true hard man.

Shooting someone with a gun is a spineless cowardly way of gangsterism.

***I would never go against you man to man because you might whip my arse. So I'll shoot you so i can have a chance.***

It's a weak way to go, but I guess it's the only option for some weak men.

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Unread post by Guest » April 19th, 2004, 6:42 am

true^^^

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Re: The Era Of Being HARD?

Unread post by ElGuero » May 4th, 2004, 11:26 pm

I wouldn't put blame on MTV.......it promotes a certain way of dressing, and a type of music originally associated with the "ghetto"....but I fail to see any glorification of gangs in it.....

What is on the rise are clicks.....these are very different in organization and purpose from gangs. Rich or middle class kids committing crimes and beating on each other isn't a product of "ghetto" influence......its a product of a lack of communication in families, of kids who have been too spoiled to know there is no glory in what they do.....

Hip Hop also has a positive influence you know.....the success of stars shows kids in the ghetto that there is more to aspire to than gang banging.....and it shows that their culture is nothing to be ashamed of, that it can be portrayed in a positive, tasteful manner......

Anyways.....back in the day, videos weren't all that, don't remember many people in the barrio with cable!

Like anything, whenever something gets "white washed"....literally!.... it gets taken out of context, and is turned into a circus.......all these hip hop artists dissing each other, and rhyming to boost their egos......all that has a long way to go before it can be compared to gangsta rap.....

If anything, I would say MTV turns a culture of poverty into a fetish.....and sugarcoats a very hard way of life......But what the kids are doing because of it.......its just ignorance and boredom, not gang banging in the real sense......although I do admit, some rich kids think they can get away with anthing.....and you know what, they do!

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Re: The Era Of Being HARD?

Unread post by BIG DUSTY LOCO » May 5th, 2004, 2:03 pm

good post ^^^^ Guero!

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Re: The Era Of Being HARD?

Unread post by 1OldSchool » May 5th, 2004, 8:48 pm

I believe many gang members are lacking cultural identity and a longing to belong , to be respected and have pride in themselves and their cause /culture. the MAN f--ked many continents and cultures up by their greed and lust for power/money/land/resources.. Gangs are the product of whats left.

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Re: The Era Of Being HARD?

Unread post by Noog » May 6th, 2004, 5:00 am

Some intelligent musings here ..... and yes, Gangs are the manifestation of the vacuum, the emodiement of loss and lack, the unwitting prophets of what it means to have dirt. Yes man, young people have to be hard to survive. But you know what, the system always blames the poor for their own poverty.

On this site I've read over abd over that its down to individual resonsibility, that if you are unlucky enough to be born in the ghetto, its down to the individual and the individual only. Bollocks man! Sure , we all have responsibility, but I believe passionately that the main responsibility lies with government and the truth is that they do not care for people in the inner cities, whether UK or the States or wherever. Hey Americans - Socialism is not a dirty word.

I dream of revolutionary consciousness infecting us, animating us, brining people together in constructive ways. Yeah, a gang made up of yout, but also grannies and mothers coming together to stand against the forces that cause the suffering. Yes - your government. Get hard on them.

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Unread post by louis » June 24th, 2004, 11:18 am

To me hard is just a word aswell as gangsta. What is hard. Putting on an ill face and walking with a limp. Or is hard cursing or disrespecting any and everything in your path. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS GANGSTA OR BEING HARD ITS JUST AN ILLUSION. DEATH is not an illusion it is very real. After that there is nothing else. Millions of our youth are caught in this illusion manifested by rappers,and the media. But rappers and media are not to blame. Wat you see on t.v is far diffrent than what really happens on the concrete. Don't get it twisted

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Unread post by Common Sense » April 18th, 2006, 2:55 pm

I believe the era of being hard (1980's 1990's) is on the decline in the major cities. What do you guys think?

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Unread post by Tyrant » April 18th, 2006, 5:40 pm

Common Sense wrote:I believe the era of being hard (1980's 1990's) is on the decline in the major cities. What do you guys think?
Well I think male teens will always be hard to try to impress girls. Maybe if they didn't value females enough and value them that high they some of them would stop being hard. Of course if they value females too low then there would be a bad side to that too.

No matter what there'll always be sukcas running around trying to be tough.

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Slakcs n a Tshirt wrote:
Common Sense wrote:I believe the era of being hard (1980's 1990's) is on the decline in the major cities. What do you guys think?
Well I think male teens will always be hard to try to impress girls. Maybe if they didn't value females enough and value them that high they some of them would stop being hard. Of course if they value females too low then there would be a bad side to that too.

No matter what there'll always be sukcas running around trying to be tough.
quoted for TRUTH

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Unread post by jeremy » April 19th, 2006, 7:36 am

LOL.Here's an example of what the "era of being hard" is doing to kids.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC1weL-j ... er%20fight


I really hate people who act "gangsta" especially white kids.This kid is REALLY annoying and he needs to get his butt wooped with a belt.His parents need to beat his ass with a belt.I would do it for free.Stupid little kid.These dumbs kids(of all races) live in nice houses usually middle class(which to me is rich people) and want to be in a gang?What a load of shit.Yes that's what rap does to kids,it brainwashes them.Being "gangsta" means being stupid and ignorant.Anyone can say whatever they want but YOU are wrong and I am RIGHT!!

I've seen it with my own eyes,gangs are for people with WEAK minds.I've lived in Compton, famous for it's Gangsta rap created by NWA, for all of my life and I never joined a gang.I knew people who were but I didn't socialize with them.Maybe living in this type of place is the reason I am anti-social.Living in a place full of ignorance will make you that way.Everyone around you has a below average I.Q.Talking to people here is like talking to apes(though apes are smarter).Anyways , yes people who act this way are SHEEPS sucking on the corporations dick(rap music)!!

p.s. That kid needs to get his head smashed in and thought a lesson about life.Notice how the wigger doesn't fight.Instead he makes his hippie friend fight for him and his other wigger friends kick the guy while he was down.COWARDLY FAGS!!What the hell is wrong with kids these days!!!!!!I never had a great relationship with my parents or had the greatest childhood here in Compton but I never got into the whole "gangsta" shit.That shit is retarded and only for dumbasses.

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Re: The Era Of Being HARD?

Unread post by niro » April 19th, 2006, 8:20 am

Noog wrote:I grew up in Northern England - there has been a hard man culture in all the towns and cities of UK, especially the North. When I was a little un, we fought all the time, but with little crews and with fists. We lived to tell our tales. Nowadays things have changed. Here in London its gone from fists, to knives and on to guns. We thought we were hard, but though I took a beating now and then, I lived. We celebrated hard. Now though, with boys being stabbed and shot left, right and centre, I ask what the f-uck is hard about pulling a trigger or stabbing a yout? We saw hard as being a good fighter, quick with yer fists, yer head n yer feet. It breaks my heart to hear of young men being killed by young men time after time. F-ckin miserable waste. I no hard man now, i'm a daddy, a lover not a fighter, but I am devoting my life to helping those yout comin up who are enamoured with the US gangster ting, here in London the Yardie ting. FU_CK HARD MAN CULTURE< ITS A CULTURE OF MISERY< DEFEAT N DEATH
word to that man

You truly prove urself by fighting with ur fists, but now arguments cant be settled with just one-on-one fights, other people will join in, even weapons, knives and guns will come into play

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Unread post by loser » April 19th, 2006, 1:22 pm

That wigga was scary-ass! He even didn't stand for himself, only shouted "hit him". And those words "bitch, fuck you, pistol" were also from gangsta rap/movies. Miserable.

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Unread post by exsdustynig » April 19th, 2006, 10:02 pm

man when i was growing up we would fight with our hands, you win you win you lose fight till you win or go home and get yo ass whooped, this fake ass mentality that imma be hood, or hard was what used to be a lifestyle and is now a blackeye for everybody still trying to better themselves after having moved on from bein in the hood.. and i'm only 20, from me growing up to most of these wanna be yg's coming up it went from fighting to shooting and you can't come back from death. period.

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Unread post by Common Sense » April 20th, 2006, 7:34 am

exsdustynig wrote:wanna be yg's coming up it went from fighting to shooting and you can't come back from death. period.
These 20 year olds and younger, are starting to pay some hefty fees for their ignorance. States especially Cali, are throwing Life Size books at these youngin's. It's no joke. They better realize quick, that the hunt is on. Read Idiots That Donate Their Souls Thread.

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Unread post by Y.g. Kappa Don » April 21st, 2006, 1:54 am

I feel because there is no direction 4 theze young kidz that this is now a lost generation im not much older than 20 myself but i was brought up alot different than 2 just dump and take a life and not even have a guilty conscience like i dont breathe the same air as everybody else or dont
bleed blood like everyone else i was taught that if you man enough 2 dump and hand out a loss you betta b prepared 4 the get back factor because aint no such thing as im harder than them G'z or they harder then me because at the end of the day we all just human brown, black, white, asain, samoan but the thing that doesn't have any love 4 any shades of color is gunz they take any victim young, old and even not born yet babiez but with all theze renegades and young nutty'z nowadayz alot of um act like people gon look down on them because they said hi or wassup or bye jus the other day i was with my popz rollin 2 the barbershop 2 get lined up my dad saw a young brother bout 16 come out the shop flagged up FRONTLININ practicin lookin hard' my dad said wassup man how you doin? lil homie mug my pops real hard like my dad someone 2 settrip with even though pops is damn near 50 and im trippen like should i talk 2 him bout how thingz should be seein is how im still a young black man myself should i tell him that its alright 2 tell a nigga wassup how you doin stay safe and sucka free now days you cant chestise these young rebels or they will ride back with heat and bad intentions back when i was a younger nigga his age i didn't mind the discipline that elders and Big G'z gave me because i was opened 2 hearin bout what i did wrong and how i was outta bounds 4 what i did and the consequence's that would come because of it now these youngsters dont wanna hear what the big G'z gotta say and dont care if they were wrong or right because in there minds they are always right until it is too late to teach them then they layin in a closed casket 4 trynna b 2 hard. my mom taught me this before she passed a hard head make a soft A** and if i cant tell anotha young brotha anything else it would be this.

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Unread post by Common Sense » April 21st, 2006, 8:49 am

That's a big problem in the community. No respect for your fellow human being. Now what a big trip is, these fools are the same one's that are so sensitive about gettin' disrespected. Won't respect anyone else, but demand respect up front. That's why knuckleheads always cancel themselves out. They don't last too long anymore.

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Unread post by Common Sense » April 21st, 2006, 8:59 am

I also think some of these ghetto movies that glorify being a knucklehead against all odds is partly to blame. Due to the lack of parental guidance, some young kids are being raised by there favorite unsupervised movies. Yes, these urban lifestyle movies are entertaining to someone who has some sense, but what about the soon to be fool on the corner. He or she is taking this script seriously. Eventhough the script may loosly represent "Hood Life", but there are serious consequences that go along with "acting a fool" with a gun. So after the movie, some dumb kid may feel he/she hasn't been "hard enogh." Now they want to go and start checking people in the neighborhood.

You know back in the day, kids used to leave the movie theatre inspired to be a super hero. Those movies don't make as much money at the box office anymore.

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Unread post by Qdawg » April 23rd, 2006, 8:56 pm

[quote="Common Sense"]That's a big problem in the community. No respect for your fellow human being. Now what a big trip is, these fools are the same one's that are so sensitive about gettin' disrespected. Won't respect anyone else, but demand respect up front. That's why knuckleheads always cancel themselves out. They don't last too long anymore.[/quote]

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Unread post by BxMilitia » July 23rd, 2006, 11:19 am

i agree with common 100%, u cant act like a lil bitch when u get disrepected if u doin the same ta everyone else, wut goes around comes around, if u trynna bitch sumbody u betta be prepared for wuts commin, n thats karma ta the fullest

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Unread post by Qdawg » July 23rd, 2006, 3:09 pm

everybodys thorough/everybodys a killa nowadays....majority of these "actors" is dead,or 75% are in jail for catching a body..the other 15% in jail for catching a body was quiet dudes who was minding they business & had to kill "a hard niggah" because he tested them

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Re: The Era Of Being HARD?

Unread post by sjoeyg » August 1st, 2006, 8:55 am

1OldSchool wrote:I believe many gang members are lacking cultural identity and a longing to belong , to be respected and have pride in themselves and their cause /culture. the MAN f--ked many continents and cultures up by their greed and lust for power/money/land/resources.. Gangs are the product of whats left.
the MAN set the example and look what many gangs are trying to get - power(strength and recognition)/money(drugs and cars)/land(neighborhood claims+expansion)/resources(the young kids on the block).

the tragedy continues - white, black, rich, poor and everything in between and not much pride anywhere.

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Unread post by A Ghost » August 1st, 2006, 11:19 am

I think this is definetly and Era of people trying to be tough, I mean some on, it used to be that only the major US cities were places with crime, now small ass towns in Idaho are starting to do things like form gangs and shit....

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Unread post by Common Sense » August 10th, 2006, 11:51 am

Small towns have been trying to catch up with big city crimes ever since the induction of Mtv and cable. I remember in the early 90's every kid in the corn fields wanted to be like Ice Cube.

The era of being hard is really about people with low self esteem looking to be somebody. If they only knew, that being cool to people wins alot more respect than being an ass anyday.

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Unread post by Godfather » August 10th, 2006, 12:37 pm

I think that it's interesting that a lot of threads on this site that start up to talk about how gangs, fighting, etc is bad end up having a bunch of posts talking about how people did/or do do one or more of those things but now look back on it and think it's dumb. While I'm sure there are a lot of people that have experienced that kind of stuff on this site I also think there are a lot of people who just try to appear like they lived the life so that they can act like they're speaking from wisdom which just roots back a glorified idea of gang life. Why would people act like they did it if they didn't think there was a coolness factor involved? Just so we're clear I'm not speaking of people in this thread I'm just talking about certain posts I notice all around this board in topics relating to violence and gangs and things of that nature.

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Unread post by Common Sense » August 10th, 2006, 12:47 pm

I guess it's easy to think thug life is cool, when your whole-world only exist 3-4 city blocks.

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Unread post by Godfather » August 10th, 2006, 12:51 pm

I think your raised a very interesting point about looking at someone. You know society has gone in the tiolet when fights and shootings occur over someone looking at someone else. I can't even describe the number of times I hear people talking smack about one another only to hear it's because "he/she was staring at me wrong". Downright stupidity.

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