How to lose friends and make enemies

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How to lose friends and make enemies

Unread post by 'X' » January 10th, 2007, 6:08 pm

How to lose friends and make enemies
by A.M.

I thought long and hard about writing this article. In fact, it has taken me two years to make a determination, that this article should be written. It actually began in December 2004, when the harassment on my domestic and international travel began. I am among the hundreds of millions of men and women who profess Islam as a way of life. Many of us are becoming fed up more and more each day with how Muslims are treated under the guise of National Security, which really amounts to Muslim profiling. The term that is used most frequently throughout the Muslim world is Islamophobia, which is defined as “a fear or dislike of Muslims or Islamic culture.”

The security at many airports in America and throughout the world is as confused and disorganized as the Bush White House. Just look at the latest security issue on liquids. You can carry liquids or you cannot carry them. You can carry a certain amount, but it must be placed in a plastic bag. How will the plastic bag make it safer than just being inside my personal bag? Those who are trying to carry out the confused instructions are just as confused as those who gave the instructions.

I happen to be just one of the thousands of Muslims, on what they call the “no fly” list. This means that when you travel inside or outside of America you must report to the ticket counter and the agent must call a special telephone number to obtain a clearance in order for you to travel. They then put an “SSS” on your boarding card. When you reach the security gate, the TSA agent usually tells you that you have been randomly selected by the airline. My response to them is that my name must be Mr. Random, because I am always randomly checked.

What inspired me to write this article, was a few weeks ago I was traveling from Africa back to the United States and when I arrived in Europe, (Italy), while waiting in line to board my flight, one of the Italian officials went up and down the line calling my name out. Because of her Italian accent, I could not understand her. When I finally realized that she was looking for me, I responded and she politely took me off the line. Two policemen in uniform and one in plain clothes confiscated my passport and boarding card. They proceeded to take me through a side door to the bottom of the plane. They found my bags and checked them, searched me and everything that I was carrying, and then allowed me to board the flight. This kind of treatment has happened to me on a few occasions. The only way that the Italians would have this information, about me being some type of threat, is that the American officials warned them against me, or placed my name on a checklist.

In some instances, they selected certain seats for me on the plane and put an obvious, armed, sky marshal to stand guard. If the Bush White House had a special department called “How To Lose Friends and Make Enemies,” I would guess, that it would be headed by none other than Vice President Dick Cheney. It may have been the Vice President who encouraged President Bush to make the ridiculous statement, “they hate us because we are free.” :roll: Immediately, after this asinine statement, Vice President Cheney and his inner circle went to work, stripping the American people of all of their freedoms. Now, I guess the “terrorists” should hate us less because we are less free.

I would hope that President Bush’s father would step in and say: “Look son, you have not only messed up America, but you have messed up the world.” More than likely, he would have used another word for messed up. Messed up does not convey the intensity of how much President Bush Jr. has messed up America and the world.

When I returned from Africa via Italy and finally landed in the United States, I went through an unbearable harassment at the Chicago O’Hare airport. Upon arrival, the gate agents stood at the door of the plane and instructed everyone to have their passports ready. During these types of situations there are always two customs officers checking passports, as passengers exit the plane. Instinctively, I know these custom agents are waiting for me. Once I approach them and hand to them my passport, that particular security post, breaks down and the two-armed police officers escort me down, as if I am a common criminal. Most people seeing a Black man being escorted off a plane do not think terrorist, they think he must be an African illegal alien, a drug pusher or carrier, or a fugitive from justice.

After they take me down, they pick up my bags and then commence to search every sheet of paper with a fine toothcomb, reading all my personal notes. They have even gone as far as making a photocopy of my telephone book. This is reminiscent of all of the movies, documents, and writings on fascism in Nazi Germany. Fascism is defined as a philosophy or system of government that is marked by stringent social and economic control. A social and political ideology, with the primary guiding principle that the state or nation is the highest priority, rather than personal or individual freedoms.

If this is not harassment, then tell me what does this constitute. I have been a member of the Nation of Islam since 1960. The Nation of Islam under the Honorable Elijah Muhammad, Imam W. D. Mohammed, or the Honorable Louis Farrakhan, has no history of being involved in any terrorist acts against the United States of America. I asked one of the agents, do you think that this treatment of me and many others like me, is making us wave the flag and say we love this type of security for America? Do you think you are making friends for America, while we know that we are innocent of terrorist acts?

Dr. Cornell West in a speech in Pasadena, California described it correctly. He called what is going on now the, “n----r-ization” of America. Those in the Black community understand why we are profiled when we enter a store and when we get pulled over when driving while Black.

Many of the foreign Muslim Brothers, before 911, use to think that we were overly sensitive and we were always whining and crying about police profiling, harassment and brutality. They did not quite understand this before 911, but now they understand clearly, as they go through what we have suffered for years in America.

I suggest that as a father, Pres. Bush Sr., put some older and more experienced people around Pres. Bush Jr. One of the tasks for this new think tank should be, how help America out of the hole that it has dug for itself. He should quote the parable, “When you find yourself in a hole, the first order is to stop digging.” The next order of business should be how to constitutionally fire Vice President Dick Cheney and to close down his pet department entitled, “How to Lose Friends and Make Enemies.”

I am sure that Vice President Cheney will probably go on fighting and will try to paint the picture that his department has accomplished a lot. He will use confusing statements, i.e., the recent confession that we are not winning in Iraq, but we are not losing either. The American people and the world are still scratching their heads over this statement.

A recent article in the current History publication December 2006, has an article entitled “America and Islam” by Peter Warren Singer, clearly showing that America is losing friends and making enemies throughout the Islamic world.

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Unread post by frozen fire » January 12th, 2007, 2:59 pm

"The greatest form of dictatorship is the hidden hand which gives you the illusion of freedom while fundamentally controlling your life because people do not rebel against not being free when they believe they are." David Icke

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Unread post by Lonewolf » January 13th, 2007, 8:21 pm

Wether uou are a Muslim, a Mexican, a Communist or a Gang Member,
it doesn't matter; you don't conform with what is "American," therefore
you are >> A MENACE II SOCIETY >> Be that of a Terrorist, Labor,
Political or Criminal "KIND" >> You are a "NATIONAL TREATH" and one
to be EXAGERATED AND EXPLOITED for the benefir of DEMOCRACY ...
"D O N ' T - Y O U - G E T - I T - Y E T !"

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Unread post by Odog » February 4th, 2007, 11:49 am

But there have been Afro-American muslims who did wanted to commit terrorist acts.Black muslims are not as peaceful as come tru in the artical.Look at the muslim organisation El Rukns.Look at the Black Mafia of Philadelphia,all there members were muslim.El Rukns wanted to commit several terrorist acts for the secret-agency of Libia in order of president Ghadaffi.With that in mind.............. :wink:

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Unread post by MiChuhSuh » February 5th, 2007, 6:11 pm

^Are you serious gonna compare El Rukn (AKA ONE OF THE CHICAGO BLACK P. STONE NATION GROUPS) with a religious organization?

So should we call David Koresh and the Branch Davidians or the Nazis "Christian"????

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Unread post by Odog » February 6th, 2007, 9:10 am

No but there members are muslim and they did wanted to commit terrorist acts for a Islamic enemy country.So to say Black muslims are just peaceful people who just pray and go to the mosque,well history says otherwise.

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Unread post by king phoenix » February 28th, 2007, 6:20 pm

Odog wrote:No but there members are muslim and they did wanted to commit terrorist acts for a Islamic enemy country.So to say Black muslims are just peaceful people who just pray and go to the mosque,well history says otherwise.
Hey some Catholics rape little boys! so should we now label all christians molesters off the strength of a few member of a certian branch of the same religion"christianity"

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Unread post by MiChuhSuh » March 4th, 2007, 8:19 pm

My friends came back from Egypt and at the airport they get harrassed so much it's funny. They were interrogated and got asked these questions (not kidding, it's pretty much word for word):

Did you see Osama bin Laden?

Do you know Osama bin Laden?

Were you trained by terrorists?

Did you shoot any guns (*then the guy pointed his fingers and said "BANG, BANG!"* :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: )

Do you want to kill Americans?


LOL they were just laughing about it because it was so ridiculous so even the interrogator felt ridiculous and let them go. But some people took it serious and started shouting because they were offended and then they were detained for like a week.

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Unread post by Odog » March 5th, 2007, 10:18 am

king phoenix wrote:
Odog wrote:No but there members are muslim and they did wanted to commit terrorist acts for a Islamic enemy country.So to say Black muslims are just peaceful people who just pray and go to the mosque,well history says otherwise.
Hey some Catholics rape little boys! so should we now label all christians molesters off the strength of a few member of a certian branch of the same religion"christianity"
Catholics don't fly planes into buildings.If you know Catholics would do that,then i got no problem if they check them 3000 times at airports.It's about our safety so..........

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Unread post by king phoenix » March 5th, 2007, 1:21 pm

Odog wrote:
king phoenix wrote:
Odog wrote:No but there members are muslim and they did wanted to commit terrorist acts for a Islamic enemy country.So to say Black muslims are just peaceful people who just pray and go to the mosque,well history says otherwise.
Hey some Catholics rape little boys! so should we now label all christians molesters off the strength of a few member of a certian branch of the same religion"christianity"
Catholics don't fly planes into buildings.If you know Catholics would do that,then i got no problem if they check them 3000 times at airports.It's about our safety so..........
so by your tone i can see that you are not one of the people gettin searched at the airport, nor are you capable of puttin your beliefs aside for a second to understand anothers point of view and third you obviouly choose not to see the millions that christianity has murdered over the last 2000 years in the name of Jeus Christ, oh and one last thing wasnt Hittler a christian?

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Unread post by MiChuhSuh » March 5th, 2007, 7:29 pm

^ naw, Hitler was a occultist, he used the name of Christianity to gain support amon German's weak minded people.

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Unread post by king phoenix » March 6th, 2007, 8:57 am

hey that soundsl like what the christian governing bodies have been doing since 2nd century A.D but thanks for puttin me on, i though he was a christian!

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Unread post by Sentenza » March 6th, 2007, 10:05 am

MiChuhSuh wrote:^ naw, Hitler was a occultist, he used the name of Christianity to gain support amon German's weak minded people.
From what i know he didnt believe in anything at all....

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Unread post by EmperorPenguin » March 6th, 2007, 12:30 pm

MiChuhSuh wrote:My friends came back from Egypt and at the airport they get harrassed so much it's funny. They were interrogated and got asked these questions (not kidding, it's pretty much word for word):

Did you see Osama bin Laden?

Do you know Osama bin Laden?

Were you trained by terrorists?

Did you shoot any guns (*then the guy pointed his fingers and said "BANG, BANG!"* :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: )

Do you want to kill Americans?


LOL they were just laughing about it because it was so ridiculous so even the interrogator felt ridiculous and let them go. But some people took it serious and started shouting because they were offended and then they were detained for like a week.
That reminds me of a flight I took in Dec. 2001. I was going from Edmonton to Los Angeles. A small group of 3 middle eastern men were behind me in line. Granted in Edmonton we have a large portion of Hindu's not muslims but I honestly don't know which of those these 3 guys were. Well 1 guy started to joke around about Osama Bin Laden while standing in line. Needless to say him and his 2 friends never made the flight to L.A.

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Unread post by EmperorPenguin » March 6th, 2007, 12:33 pm

Odog wrote:
king phoenix wrote:
Odog wrote:No but there members are muslim and they did wanted to commit terrorist acts for a Islamic enemy country.So to say Black muslims are just peaceful people who just pray and go to the mosque,well history says otherwise.
Hey some Catholics rape little boys! so should we now label all christians molesters off the strength of a few member of a certian branch of the same religion"christianity"
Catholics don't fly planes into buildings.If you know Catholics would do that,then i got no problem if they check them 3000 times at airports.It's about our safety so..........
Oddly enough they do or have commited terrorist acts in Ireland and they do get screened over and over again when flying there. Profiling like this may work in a short span but mark my word one day you will see a white person who either by choice or by force will commit some form of terrorist act in the near future based on this Al Qaeda agenda.

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Unread post by frozen fire » March 7th, 2007, 4:51 am

some foolish people actually believe this qoute
* All muslims are not terrorists but all terrorists are muslims...*
I smile at their stupidity.

peace.

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Unread post by Sentenza » March 7th, 2007, 12:01 pm

king phoenix wrote:
Odog wrote:
king phoenix wrote:
Odog wrote:No but there members are muslim and they did wanted to commit terrorist acts for a Islamic enemy country.So to say Black muslims are just peaceful people who just pray and go to the mosque,well history says otherwise.
Hey some Catholics rape little boys! so should we now label all christians molesters off the strength of a few member of a certian branch of the same religion"christianity"
Catholics don't fly planes into buildings.If you know Catholics would do that,then i got no problem if they check them 3000 times at airports.It's about our safety so..........
so by your tone i can see that you are not one of the people gettin searched at the airport, nor are you capable of puttin your beliefs aside for a second to understand anothers point of view and third you obviouly choose not to see the millions that christianity has murdered over the last 2000 years in the name of Jeus Christ, oh and one last thing wasnt Hittler a christian?
"I regard Christianity as the most fatal, seductive lie that ever existed."
-Hitler in "Mein Kampf"

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Unread post by johnnnny » March 7th, 2007, 12:10 pm

^-- a long time ago i remember seeing this show on one of the learning channels that was recounting past events in the church. And from what i can remmber there was this priest of an old church that found this hidden book. Then went and brought it to the pope and i guess gave it to him for money, so the story goes he got back to his old church and starting worshipping the devil and went crazy....

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Unread post by justice league » March 7th, 2007, 11:51 pm

Sentenza wrote:
MiChuhSuh wrote:^ naw, Hitler was a occultist, he used the name of Christianity to gain support amon German's weak minded people.
From what i know he didnt believe in anything at all....
he believed in power.

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Unread post by Lonewolf » March 8th, 2007, 2:06 pm

He believed in the MASTER RACE, He beleived in GERMAN SUPERIORITY,
He Beleived Christianity was A HOAX, He beleived in his SUPREME MIND.
And YES, He beleived in the Occult as a measure to Reign Supreme.

Take a look at all the symbolism that the National Socialist Workers Party
used as a tool to brainwash the masses.

Symbols and Symbolism is "A MUST TOOL" to bond together forces . . .

Every Nation in the world uses it . . . and if you want to bring it more
down to earth and closer to home ~~> Look at the Gangs all over . . .

INITIALS, LIDS, TAT'S, NUMBERS, COLORS, IMAGES, ETC, ETC.

Can't get any simpler than that ^ ^ ^ ^

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Unread post by johnnnny » March 8th, 2007, 3:10 pm

even words?

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Unread post by Sentenza » March 8th, 2007, 3:13 pm

Lonewolf wrote:He believed in the MASTER RACE, He beleived in GERMAN SUPERIORITY,
He Beleived Christianity was A HOAX, He beleived in his SUPREME MIND.
And YES, He beleived in the Occult as a measure to Reign Supreme.

Take a look at all the symbolism that the National Socialist Workers Party
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Symbols and Symbolism is "A MUST TOOL" to bond together forces . . .

Every Nation in the world uses it . . . and if you want to bring it more
down to earth and closer to home ~~> Look at the Gangs all over . . .

INITIALS, LIDS, TAT'S, NUMBERS, COLORS, IMAGES, ETC, ETC.

Can't get any simpler than that ^ ^ ^ ^
Would you agree when i would say, that people tend to prefer following symbols rather then their heart?

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Unread post by Lonewolf » March 8th, 2007, 3:52 pm

WHAT IS HEART?

Define HEART?

Heart iS ~~>

In My OPINOION!

~~> What Love You Got

AND/OR

~~> What Hate You Hold

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Unread post by johnnnny » March 8th, 2007, 3:54 pm

that sounds like passion

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Unread post by Lonewolf » March 8th, 2007, 4:02 pm

johnnnny wrote:that sounds like passion
TRUE . . .

But what is Passion without Love?

Gotta Love what you fight for . . .

Gotta Hate what you fight against . . .

Otherwise ~~> What's it all about?

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Unread post by johnnnny » March 8th, 2007, 4:04 pm

true, good points

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Unread post by Sentenza » March 8th, 2007, 5:18 pm

Lonewolf wrote:
johnnnny wrote:that sounds like passion
TRUE . . .

But what is Passion without Love?

Gotta Love what you fight for . . .

Gotta Hate what you fight against . . .

Otherwise ~~> What's it all about?
Do you really have to hate it? Or is realizing and differentiating whats wrong from whats right enough and then fight? My Pops said so :wink:

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Unread post by Lonewolf » March 8th, 2007, 5:59 pm

What is Right?

What is Wrong?

What is Sin?

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Unread post by johnnnny » March 8th, 2007, 6:00 pm

Lonewolf wrote:What is Right?

What is Wrong?

What is Sin?
thats the persons opinion, there own abstract thoughts

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Unread post by Sentenza » March 8th, 2007, 6:21 pm

Lonewolf wrote:What is Right?

What is Wrong?

What is Sin?
Sin is a man made word. Right and wrong....well your heart tells you...

And you have to listen to your heart very precisely to be able to tell.

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Sentenza wrote:
Lonewolf wrote:He believed in the MASTER RACE, He beleived in GERMAN SUPERIORITY,
He Beleived Christianity was A HOAX, He beleived in his SUPREME MIND.
And YES, He beleived in the Occult as a measure to Reign Supreme.

Take a look at all the symbolism that the National Socialist Workers Party
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Symbols and Symbolism is "A MUST TOOL" to bond together forces . . .

Every Nation in the world uses it . . . and if you want to bring it more
down to earth and closer to home ~~> Look at the Gangs all over . . .

INITIALS, LIDS, TAT'S, NUMBERS, COLORS, IMAGES, ETC, ETC.

Can't get any simpler than that ^ ^ ^ ^
Would you agree when i would say, that people tend to prefer following symbols rather then their heart?

yes.. absolutely... symbols are a device for creating an unitarian concept. It doesnt have to be personal,. as you can personalize it and it has a comon understanding without any real understanding.. it creates a common thread that has only an image as its true tie.
it creates some universal levelling that has no real depth... yet people want to put a deeper chasm in the nonstructured belief... the symbol is power in that it means others will support its truth, even if the truth has yet to be divulged.

it is a human phenomenon.

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Unread post by justice league » March 8th, 2007, 9:33 pm

Lonewolf wrote:
johnnnny wrote:that sounds like passion
TRUE . . .

But what is Passion without Love?

Gotta Love what you fight for . . .

Gotta Hate what you fight against . . .

Otherwise ~~> What's it all about?
how do you truly know if you love or hate something yu are passsionate about?
'right' or 'wrong' is JUDGEMENT VALUES.... therefore if you say something is right or wrong you are JUDGING. an sitting in the seat of judgement

to translate from Greek the origin of the word"sin" it means to "miss the mark"... to sin is to get off your path... by interfereing with others and meddling in the lives of others and tresspassing where you dont belong.. quite simply to sin is to live outside one's purpose.

If I believe it is wrong to eat meat, is it wrong? no for e to eat meat would make me a sinner... to criticize others of eating meat would also make me a sinner... but to allow you to eat meat without imput on my part would be within my purpose and therefore living without sin... and for it to be right or wrong is not an issue.

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