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Re: Would you consider joining the military? Part.2

Unread post by Military Mind » October 29th, 2004, 12:12 pm

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Military Mind wrote:YEA I JOINED! IM FROM TORONTO CANADA OCCUPATION: INFANTRY SOLDIER AND WELL TRAINED. THE SHIT GOIN ON IN U.S THE PRESIDENT IS A JOKE! THEY AINT TRAININ YOU LIKE YOUR READY FOR WAR! THINK ABOUT THE CONSEQUENCES HAPPENIN RIGHT NOW IN IRAQ. ITS BS YOUR GOVERMENT NEEDS TO STRAIGHTEN THE FAWK UP!
Man how you gonna talk. You from Canada.... What War have yall ever been in besides going to war to help the Brits..
Talking about you well trained..... Well trained for what?

We aint getting trained like we ready for War huh? Thats so funny coming from Non Hostile Canadain that has no military History besides a few battles in WW1 and WW2 under British Command....LOL.... Get the F*** outa here....................[/quoNOPE NOT A FOOL BUT KNOWN TO THE FACT THAT WERE THE SMARTEST ARMY COMPARING TO THE U.S HOW DUMB CAN YOU EVEN BE TO GO TO IRAQ AND START SHIT. KNOWING YOU CANT PROVE NOTHING BUT TO KILL ONE ANOTHER. A U.S SOLDIER WAS ASKED IF HE EVER WANTED TO GO BACK TO IRAQ HE SAID "NO" Y? BECAUSE WERE KILLING INNCENT PEOPLE FOR WHAT?

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Re: Would you consider joining the military? Part.2

Unread post by Common Sense » October 29th, 2004, 12:37 pm

Military Mind wrote:NOPE NOT A FOOL BUT KNOWN TO THE FACT THAT WERE THE SMARTEST ARMY COMPARING TO THE U.S?
Okay...whatever.
Military Mind wrote:HOW DUMB CAN YOU EVEN BE TO GO TO IRAQ AND START SHIT.?
Why do you care? Your Canadian. Your not in Iraq.
Military Mind wrote:NOWING YOU CANT PROVE NOTHING BUT TO KILL ONE ANOTHER.?
Don't worry about it. Your Canadian.
Military Mind wrote:A U.S SOLDIER WAS ASKED IF HE EVER WANTED TO GO BACK TO IRAQ HE SAID "NO" Y??
If given a choice to go to war or go home, I believe most would say go home. That's kommon cents. A No Brainer.
Military Mind wrote:BECAUSE WERE KILLING INNCENT PEOPLE FOR WHAT?
How do you know whoose being killed? What's your proof? Secondly, your Canadian...why do you care?

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Re: Would you consider joining the military? Part.2

Unread post by Military Mind » October 29th, 2004, 1:47 pm

YEA PROUD TO BE CANADIAN U JEALOUS EH? IM NOT THE ONE WHOS ON THE NUCLEAR BOMB HIT LIST. COMMON SENSE AINT IT!

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Re: Would you consider joining the military? Part.2

Unread post by Young Nile » October 29th, 2004, 11:11 pm

Canadians are so funny. So vocal but very little action......

You guys are spectators. If the US, UK and Canada were all brothers Canada would be the little Brother thats allways talking shit but know one pays him any mind because he's all talk and wont flex a muscle unless his brother UK tells him to. Besides your economic and Industrial success you guys get know respect in real world politics.

Talking about youguys are the "Smartest Army" LOL not doubting that. I've also heard that the Canadian army was highly organized. However you guys are not even proven. All those statistics mean nothing on the battle field. During the 1930's the French were sapose to be the most prestiges military power in Europe. Yeah.... and smaller Germany army deafeted them in 3 weeks......

Your probaly one of those Canadians who think it was you guys who burned down the White House in the war of 1812. LOL.....

All I'm saying is MR. "Proud Canadian" is that actions speak louder than words. And to me Canada is a bunch of talk. I dont even know why yall have an Army.....
Oh and about being put on a Nuclear Bomb target. Dont think Toronto, Quebic, and Ontario, + Ottowa was not on the Soviets target list during the Cold War.

Jealous? Of what. Canada, an overly taxed Socialist society? You trippen.

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Re: Would you consider joining the military? Part.2

Unread post by Military Mind » October 30th, 2004, 1:10 pm

Jealous? Of what. Canada, an overly taxed Socialist society? You trippen.[/quote]

THAT GOES FOR THE U.S ALSO NO DOUBT U.S IS INTROUBLE WITH TAX CONSIDERING YOU GUYS SPEND 1 BILLION A WEEK FOR THE WAR. NOW YOU GUYS ARE DEPENDING ON THE U.N TO THROW SOME MONEY AWAY. ITS YOU WHO ARE IN TROUBLE NOT US.

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Re: Would you consider joining the military? Part.2

Unread post by North Face » October 30th, 2004, 1:18 pm

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Jealous? Of what. Canada, an overly taxed Socialist society? You trippen.
Iraq war adds to US budget trouble


The US will be in the red by almost half a trillion dollars next year thanks largely to the spiralling cost of involvement in Iraq, a non-partisan government report says.
In its twice-yearly Budget Outlook, the Congressional Budget Office says the US will run up a deficit of $480bn in 2004, following a $401bn deficit this year.

The figures - a new record in dollar terms - are markedly worse than the CBO predicted in March this year, when the 2003 number was seen at $246bn.

They suggest a near-$1.4 trillion deficit in the 10 years to 2013 where they had previously foreseen a surplus of $891bn.

The CBO figures assume that the White House's massive programme of tax cuts will be temporary, as promised.

If they are made permanent, something many Republicans have sworn to achieve, the deficit could swell to almost $3 trillion over the 10-year period.

'Jobless recovery'

The White House insists that its massive tax cuts will underpin a recovery, and that as individuals and businesses fare better tax revenues - and the government's fiscal position - will improve.

It has itself predicted a $455bn deficit for this year - the lower CBO figure is based on predictions of slower-than-expected spending of money earmarked for Iraq - and $475bn in 2004.

But Democrat opponents of President George W Bush were quick to pin much of the blame for the deep hole in the budget that the CBO is predicting on the tax cuts themselves - as well as on the war in Iraq.

And they are likely to focus on another potential stumbling block for the Bush administration: the CBO's prediction that unemployment is likely to stay high right through to the next Presidential election in November 2004.

Almost 3 million jobs have been lost in the US in the past three years

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Re: Would you consider joining the military? Part.2

Unread post by RuthlessCray » October 30th, 2004, 2:22 pm

lonewolf wrote:One more thing, when you're taking the tests and you don't know the answer to a question, leave it blank - it doesn't count against you - it only counts against you if you answered it and gave the wrong answer. TRUST ME.

damn..really? i didnt know that..when i took the test i answered every question even if i didnt know it..i just guessed.i didnt get a high enough score to get in..that was like a year ago...i was going to try getting into the Navy..but i still need my high school diploma anyways...but i think if i took it now i can pass because since than ive learned so much and taken over alot of the high school classes that i failed in high school because i pretty much screwed up all through high school...now im not sure if i should try to join still .

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Re: Would you consider joining the military? Part.2

Unread post by Lonewolf » October 30th, 2004, 4:19 pm

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lonewolf wrote:One more thing, when you're taking the tests and you don't know the answer to a question, leave it blank - it doesn't count against you - it only counts against you if you answered it and gave the wrong answer. TRUST ME.

damn..really? i didnt know that..when i took the test i answered every question even if i didnt know it..i just guessed.i didnt get a high enough score to get in..that was like a year ago...i was going to try getting into the Navy..but i still need my high school diploma anyways...but i think if i took it now i can pass because since than ive learned so much and taken over alot of the high school classes that i failed in high school because i pretty much screwed up all through high school...now im not sure if i should try to join still .
I beleive that after 6 months you can re-take the asvab test again., For H.S. check with your H.S. and see what classes you needed, then go to an adult school and ask for the tests for those classes, some you will be able to test on without doing any school but you have to pay for each class test (not much), but if you pass a class test; they give you credits towards your diploma. Or you can sign up for the G.E.D. test. The military by law accepts it just like a h.s. diploma and together with a good score on the asvab; you can guarantee yourself a decent job in the armed service of your choice - I would choose Air Force over Navy anytime because of the wide range of fields of communications, electronics, computer diagnostics and mechanical maintenance, up to air crew support positions.

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Re: Would you consider joining the military? Part.2

Unread post by RuthlessCray » October 30th, 2004, 7:12 pm

yea i was thinking either Air Force or Navy. not the Army or anything like that because i feel like if i did that.. id end up in Iraq.

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Re: Would you consider joining the military? Part.2

Unread post by Military Mind » November 1st, 2004, 9:54 am

RuthlessBone wrote:yea i was thinking either Air Force or Navy. not the Army or anything like that because i feel like if i did that.. id end up in Iraq.
U still end up goin 2 iraq

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Re: Would you consider joining the military? Part.2

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Military Mind wrote:
RuthlessBone wrote:yea i was thinking either Air Force or Navy. not the Army or anything like that because i feel like if i did that.. id end up in Iraq.
U still end up goin 2 iraq
chances are alot lower if you are in the Navy. it wouldnt be the same as being in the Army.

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Re: Would you consider joining the military? Part.2

Unread post by North Face » November 1st, 2004, 2:34 pm

RuthlessBone wrote:
Military Mind wrote:
RuthlessBone wrote:yea i was thinking either Air Force or Navy. not the Army or anything like that because i feel like if i did that.. id end up in Iraq.
U still end up goin 2 iraq
chances are alot lower if you are in the Navy. it wouldnt be the same as being in the Army.

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Re: Would you consider joining the military? Part.2

Unread post by Common Sense » November 17th, 2004, 10:12 am

I really surprised that the military is still getting people signed up with a war going on.

A new recruit could be in Iraq within 6 months.

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Unread post by Lonewolf » November 17th, 2004, 11:23 am

Common Sense wrote:I really surprised that the military is still getting people signed up with a war going on.

A new recruit could be in Iraq within 6 months.
They are called "CANNON FODDER".

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Re: Would you consider joining the military? Part.2

Unread post by Common Sense » November 17th, 2004, 12:38 pm

^^^I'm not familiar with that term. What does it mean?

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Re: Would you consider joining the military? Part.2

Unread post by Lonewolf » November 17th, 2004, 12:41 pm

While Reservist are being held up after their Service Contract as well as other that have been dormant have been re-called for Active Duty "because of their pro-skills" needed in todays hight-tech military, the vast majority of new recruits that go thru Boot Camp end up being sent into Combat Zones and used as Grunts aka: CANNON FODDER.

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Unread post by RuthlessCray » November 17th, 2004, 2:32 pm

Common Sense wrote:I really surprised that the military is still getting people signed up with a war going on.

A new recruit could be in Iraq within 6 months.

man i know people who are like "as soon as im out of high school im going to iraq!"

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Re: Would you consider joining the military? Part.2

Unread post by North Face » November 19th, 2004, 2:25 pm

man i know people who are like "as soon as im out of high school im going to iraq!"[/quote]

now those are the people who are suicidal and got no life. Be a cop or a correctional officer or somethn.

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Unread post by Lonewolf » November 19th, 2004, 6:54 pm

No, don't become a C.O., everyone I know that has been a C.O. is quick to point out how you become rotten to the core and how they have to watch their backs all the time from either other C.O's. that have it in for you or from former inmates that recognize you out in the streets.

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Re: Would you consider joining the military? Part.2

Unread post by Chris. » November 19th, 2004, 8:06 pm

Lol, till this day, a nigga like me didnt even graduate and they send me letters to enlist and go to military school..I know many homeboys who had nothin to do with their life so they enlisted

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Unread post by Lonewolf » November 19th, 2004, 8:09 pm

And I've seen them come back out with nothing to show for.

The Military ain't no cure for all, you need to have a plan and get with it, otherwise you'll get nothing out of it.

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Re: Would you consider joining the military? Part.2

Unread post by Common Sense » November 20th, 2004, 5:53 pm

The opportunity is there...you get out of it, what you put in. Even if you did nothing at all, you still get VA benefits which is so much better than nothing.

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Re: Would you consider joining the military? Part.2

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Michael Jordan's Older Brother Going To Iraq


FAYETTEVILLE, North Carolina (AP) - Army Command Sgt. Maj. James R. Jordan has much in common with his younger brother, retired basketball star Michael Jordan. He loves his job, believes in helping his team and expects maximum effort from those around him.

And like his brother, James Jordan likes to leave on his own terms. He has asked to stay in the Army for a year beyond his mandatory retirement date so he can complete a full yearlong deployment to Iraq (news - web sites) with about 500 other members of the 35th Signal Brigade.

Command Sgt. Maj. James R. Jordan, brother of retired basketball star Michael Jordan, asked to stay in the Army for a year beyond his mandatory retirement date so he could complete a deployment to Iraq with the 35th Signal Brigade. (The Fayetteville Observer, David Smith / AP)

"We are currently at war," Jordan said before the unit started shipping out Sunday. "We are doing things, and it requires leaders to do certain things. That's what I am, a leader."

Under normal conditions, the 47-year-old Jordan would wind down his Army career in the spring as he approached the 30-year mark, but he has no intention of getting on an airplane April 29 and coming home.

"That's not the way you want to end a 30-year career," Jordan told The Fayetteville Observer.

"People ask 'Why?'" said Col. Bryan Ellis, the brigade commander. "The answer is, he is completely selfless. We all want to see it go well."

Jordan is a no-nonsense noncommissioned officer with a shaved head and a wry sense of humor. He stands 5-foot-7, while his younger brother is about 6-foot-6. As the senior enlisted soldier in the brigade of 2,450 soldiers, he has kept a low profile at Fort Bragg and avoided calling attention to his family connection.

"If you don't believe in selfless service, you are not going to make it in this business," said Jordan, the oldest person in the brigade.

He was 36, wearing the stripes of a first sergeant, when he went to airborne school, where most soldiers are in their teens or early 20s. He still runs eight miles and expects soldiers to be alongside him.

Three years of Junior ROTC during high school in Wilmington helped convince Jordan that the Army was for him.

"I figured I wanted to be a soldier, plus I was the oldest of five kids," he said. "I wanted to get out of the house and do something myself."

He said some of his relatives don't really know what he does.

"They know I'm in the Army. That's about it," he said. "My immediate family and my wife, my kids, not extremely happy, but they are on the team. They say: 'Daddy, do what you've got to do.'"

"I've been doing this by myself for so long, being my own person, being my own soldier," he said. "I'm going to continue doing it the same way until the day I feel like I need to hang it up, not when they feel like I need to hang it up."

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Re: Would you consider joining the military? Part.2

Unread post by Common Sense » November 29th, 2004, 10:22 pm

It's too bad for the children, but the rest of em (insurgents/foreign fighters) it's fair game.

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Unread post by Lonewolf » November 30th, 2004, 11:59 am

Answer this; What does the ARMED FORCES teach and train for ?

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Unread post by BlaKK » November 30th, 2004, 1:25 pm

Whatever you want youre MOS to be. Anywhere from cooking to demolition.
What are you trying to say Wolf.?

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Unread post by Lonewolf » November 30th, 2004, 1:36 pm

Aside from the suppot services to the main Combat Forces, "ALL" in the Military are trained for "KILLING", and WAR ain't pretty.
Now, we can discuss the attrocities and causes that led up to the events taking place all year long, but the fact remains that once your adrenaline gets going, you get with the program and get into it full-heartedly or chances are you won't come back in one piece to your loved ones.
Now, the sensitivity that we teach our Men about the reasons for the war is one that we "must" address fully so that they don't go into battle as if it was a video game and the enemy was non-human.

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Unread post by BlaKK » November 30th, 2004, 3:11 pm

Thank the media for that Lonwolf. when the first bombs started droppin. the medai was havin a fuccfest. Making seem as if its a video game. And soon as America troop started gettin killed what happend "Ohh god, Ohh shyt, Bush, look what chu did" they should of known war was ugly. But the media thinks everythings a fuccin game untill the live start getting lost. And know we have
politicians bitchen about 1,100 troops that were killed while liberating millions people. I mean what the fucc. Germany spent ten years in Afghanistan trying to defeat the Taliban, ten fccin years and lost over 10,000 men, America had the job done in 2 weeks and only lost less than 100 men. Nothing is good enough for Left wing America. Nothing.

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Unread post by Lonewolf » November 30th, 2004, 9:51 pm

BlaKK wrote:. "Germany spent ten years in Afghanistan" trying to defeat the Taliban, ten fccin years and lost over 10,000 men, America had the job done in 2 weeks and only lost less than 100 men. Nothing is good enough for Left wing America. Nothing.
You mean the old Soviet Union correct ?

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Unread post by BlaKK » December 1st, 2004, 12:08 am

correct, thank you

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